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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 28, 2013 10:19 am

DGman wrote:
the J are in stock......so you may have a shotgun situation.....haha

What is the difference between J and normal ah?
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DGman wrote:
the J are in stock......so you may have a shotgun situation.....haha

Pardon my ignorance, whats the difference between the J and no-J version?
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 28, 2013 10:25 am

J = junior

but yes. What is the difference?
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 28, 2013 10:44 am

J version lighter head if i recall correctly...

lets just wait for dgman to answer....best to hear from him Smile ....


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10 gram lighter.
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Wah, nah, so precise.....
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 28, 2013 12:25 pm

J suits junior & some ladies who prefer a lighter head
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 28, 2013 9:29 pm

J doesn't mean it is meant for Junior and Ladies. Altough a lighter head, you may be pleasantly surprise what a well fitted J head can do. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 28, 2013 9:56 pm

i like to think of the J as J-spec.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeThu Feb 28, 2013 10:27 pm

We created the J series to fulfill 4 main types of fitting:

1. for over-length clubs, a lighter club head helps us make it possible to maintain a D2 to D4 swing weight instead of D5 or D7 when the club is lengthened by half inch.

2. for golfers who prefer a butt weighted bias swing weight, it can be compared to having counter weighting without adding the additional total weight at the butt.

3. for golfer who prefer a lighter club without reducing swing weight, we can use a lighter grip (25 to 40g).

4. for juniors and ladies whose preference is for lighter overall weight and swing weight.

hope it helps.......DGman
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 01, 2013 10:02 am

DGman wrote:
We created the J series to fulfill 4 main types of fitting:

1. for over-length clubs, a lighter club head helps us make it possible to maintain a D2 to D4 swing weight instead of D5 or D7 when the club is lengthened by half inch.

2. for golfers who prefer a butt weighted bias swing weight, it can be compared to having counter weighting without adding the additional total weight at the butt.

3. for golfer who prefer a lighter club without reducing swing weight, we can use a lighter grip (25 to 40g).

4. for juniors and ladies whose preference is for lighter overall weight and swing weight.

hope it helps.......DGman

Does it mean that it is possible that an owner of a BFG set of irons can have CB003J or 4i and 5i and CB003 or 6i to PW?
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 25, 2013 2:12 pm

hi guys,

recently tried out the BFG irons, felt that they were quite friendly for my beginner use (background: currently played for about 5 months, have 7 games and broke 100 recently).

however, i'm a little curious why they cost so much? 1188 for pw-5 iron, which is almost 200 for a club. whereas other brands like titleist AP1 and AP2 cost roughly 150 inclusive of fitting and similar shaft options.

would like some insight provided, thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 25, 2013 2:24 pm

Because BFG cannot like the big companies manufacture thousands of sets which lower the overall cost. R&D plus lower volume equal to higher cost.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 25, 2013 2:54 pm

hi DGman,

I'd tried yur demo steelfibre shaft as well as the steel one too. I love the steel one better.

I was playing yesday wi bro Zig who was using yur irons wi steelfibre & Zen putter too, and he played well most of the time! Grt to see yur BFG irons in action! envy la!
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 25, 2013 4:19 pm

@jinglejangle ... u should try comparing like for like ... the shaft options included by BFG may be better (and hence cost more) than the standard options for Titleist ... also, it includes fitting and customisation of the clubs, i.e. right weight, right length, right lie, right balance, right shaft, etc etc

perhaps a more like for like comparison would be comparing against getting other fitted clubs (forged) ... or getting a titleist off the shelf and then customising it for yourself

In any case, value is subjective and dependent on the individual. Some golfers buy clubs that hold their value (in case they want to sell it off later), some on brand, some on appearance, some on performance, most a combination of a variety of factors.

I will say this, logically speaking, if you are looking for clubs that hold their resale value, you might not want to buy a relatively unknown local brand. However, we don't really know at this point cos the BFG Irons are out of stock and I have yet to see a used set being advertised for sale ...
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 25, 2013 11:27 pm

hi guys,

thanks for the replies and sorry if i ask dumb questions, still kinda clueless about clubs.

if i'm not wrong, if you go to a titleist fitter you can get your clubs customised as well. with the 150 price tag, AP2s are forged and come stock with NSpro, compared to the BFG with KBS i think they're pretty similar in terms of specs yes? both forged with similar ranged shafts.

what i was wanting to find out was perhaps quality of the irons? or maybe they're more expensive because of the fabrication process? but i do agree with odyssey23, being a small start-up brand the R&D and production costs should naturally be higher.

with that said however, i do agree that the BFG irons are really well made, nice thin topline and very classic CB design. having hit the demo set with the project x shafts and judging by the reviews given by most users here, i'm just actually trying to justify shelling out that much for my new set of clubs Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 25, 2013 11:33 pm

jinglejangle wrote:
hi guys,

thanks for the replies and sorry if i ask dumb questions, still kinda clueless about clubs.

if i'm not wrong, if you go to a titleist fitter you can get your clubs customised as well. with the 150 price tag, AP2s are forged and come stock with NSpro, compared to the BFG with KBS i think they're pretty similar in terms of specs yes? both forged with similar ranged shafts.

what i was wanting to find out was perhaps quality of the irons? or maybe they're more expensive because of the fabrication process? but i do agree with odyssey23, being a small start-up brand the R&D and production costs should naturally be higher.

with that said however, i do agree that the BFG irons are really well made, nice thin topline and very classic CB design. having hit the demo set with the project x shafts and judging by the reviews given by most users here, i'm just actually trying to justify shelling out that much for my new set of clubs Very Happy
NS Pro trajectory naturally much higher than KBS. If you like soft feel, the fishy stick is definitely much softer than the AP2.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 26, 2013 12:13 am

Actually, $150 for each titleist AP2 iron sounds rather low. May I know where you got the quote from? I definitely paid more than $900 for my current set of AP2s (5 - PW). Think the BFG irons are priced around the same level too.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 26, 2013 7:33 am

No questions too silly when buying clubs.

Whether AP2 or BFG irons, The proof is in the pudding......
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BFG hands down.

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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 26, 2013 9:27 am

I have both sets currently. IMHO, the AP2 are a bit more forgiving. The CB003s are very much sweeter on good hits though I find it harsher on mishits as compared to AP2. Good luck!

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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 26, 2013 9:39 am

Feel is very subjective. Some people swear by Mizunos, Muiras, Bridgestones, or other JDM brands while others like the feel of BFG irons or Titleist, Yonex, Taylor Made or even Callaway. I personally have hit many sets of quality forged irons, some tour issue and some off the rack and there are many subtle differences between the sets with regard to feel and performance.

One of the big things I have found is the shaft choice can affect feel quite a bit. A Kbs tour is going to give a slightly different feel than a DG tour issue versus a steelfibre versus a NS Pro versus a PX.

Bottom line is you have to hit the clubs and decide what works and feels best for you.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 26, 2013 9:53 am

jinglejangle wrote:
hi guys,

thanks for the replies and sorry if i ask dumb questions, still kinda clueless about clubs.

if i'm not wrong, if you go to a titleist fitter you can get your clubs customised as well. with the 150 price tag, AP2s are forged and come stock with NSpro, compared to the BFG with KBS i think they're pretty similar in terms of specs yes? both forged with similar ranged shafts.

what i was wanting to find out was perhaps quality of the irons? or maybe they're more expensive because of the fabrication process? but i do agree with odyssey23, being a small start-up brand the R&D and production costs should naturally be higher.

with that said however, i do agree that the BFG irons are really well made, nice thin topline and very classic CB design. having hit the demo set with the project x shafts and judging by the reviews given by most users here, i'm just actually trying to justify shelling out that much for my new set of clubs Very Happy

Bro,

I can understand your feeling confused about the price diff, just to state up front I am not a fishy stick user so I am not promoting.

Let's go point at a time

Fitting - I don't think that you will be able to get a better fitter than at BFG, they are good.

Shafts - NSpros and KBS don't cost the same nor feel the same, if I am correct the KBS cost more than the NSpros.The KBS feels much smoother if you ask me.

Irons - I have tried both the AP2s and BFGs, I feel that the AP2s would be more forgiving than the BFGs for mishits.But if you are able to strike it sweet most of the time the BFGs would be my choice

End of the day it's your choice.
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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 26, 2013 9:59 am

hmm okay thanks for the suggestions and comments again! i'm playing an old set of touredge ex-1s and find that they're not forgiving enough.

i've only tried a few "modern" irons at the moment: rocketbladez, ap1, ap2, mizuno mp-59 and the big fish irons.

i don't like the rocketbladez at all, the clubhead feels a little too light. the ap1 and ap2 seem fine but i liked the softness of the mp59. the big fish irons felt the best of the lot.

overall, i think eventually i have to compare my own set to the BFG irons and see how they work out. should have signed the demo set out scratch

with that said, i agree wholeheartedly that BFG fitting service is highly professional. time to visit them again soon to borrow some stuff to try at the range/course!


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PostSubject: Re: Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons   Reviews: BFG CB003 Forged Irons - Page 10 I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 26, 2013 10:03 am

Suggest you give the BFG sticks with Steelfiber shafts a look.

It was sweet,I had to put it down after a few shots, else I will be leaving it the shafts. Rolling Eyes
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jinglejangle wrote:
hmm okay thanks for the suggestions and comments again! i'm playing an old set of touredge ex-1s and find that they're not forgiving enough.

i've only tried a few "modern" irons at the moment: rocketbladez, ap1, ap2, mizuno mp-59 and the big fish irons.

i don't like the rocketbladez at all, the clubhead feels a little too light. the ap1 and ap2 seem fine but i liked the softness of the mp59. the big fish irons felt the best of the lot.

overall, i think eventually i have to compare my own set to the BFG irons and see how they work out. should have signed the demo set out scratch

with that said, i agree wholeheartedly that BFG fitting service is highly professional. time to visit them again soon to borrow some stuff to try at the range/course!


The CB 003 is out of stock at the moment....
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