2. Used to. It is a trouble maker for me and I've gotten rid of it.
8%
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3. No. My 56/58 deg wedge is more than sufficient to check the ball on a dime.
32%
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blee67 Hall of Fame Golfer
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Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:11 pm
The idea is not to putt with the putter in the rough but to use it as a wedge like appraoch. It is not issue but I find that it is easier to control. Too bad the place that i usually play do not allow me to practice that. I did try it a few times in other countries. Results are not too bad!!
Birdman Course Marshal
Posts : 3799 Join date : 2009-10-09 Age : 59 Location : Wherever my feet take me....
Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:12 pm
scottycollector wrote:
Salty Dog wrote:
What would be the recommeded bounce for 60 deg? I play mostly nsrcc and for non bunker application.
It really depends on ur swing, and the type of sand / grass. also, why do u say non-bunker application? one of the best uses for the lob wedge is to get out of green side bunkers
but if u'r really not sure, then i'd suggest going for a lower bounce.
To further elaborate:
If you have a steep swing and take deep divots, medium to high bounce.
Shallow swing where you can see the roots of the grass in your divots, low to medium bounce.
Soft turf (grass and and underneath like NSRCC, MBGC), medium to high bounce.
Firm turf (grass then earth underneath like SICC, Johor CC), low to medium bounce.
For a 60 deg lob wedge:
Low bounce app 4 deg.
Medium bounce app 8 deg.
High bounce 10 deg.
Read more here http://www.vokey.com/wedges/pages/wedge-selection-guide.aspx
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Birdman Course Marshal
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Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:15 pm
blee wrote:
The idea is not to putt with the putter in the rough but to use it as a wedge like appraoch. It is not issue but I find that it is easier to control. Too bad the place that i usually play do not allow me to practice that. I did try it a few times in other countries. Results are not too bad!!
Bro, that technique works on your home course OCC, hardly any rough around the greens one. Wait till you kena the pubic hair rough around the greens, then try your Texas wedge lor.
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Technospaz Advisor
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Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:16 pm
blee wrote:
Here's a question:
What club would you pull for a downhill lie from greenside rough to a downhill sloping green with water behind?
Ans : Putter!!!!
Do a Phil.
blee67 Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 5417 Join date : 2009-12-05 Location : Singapore
Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:22 pm
Birdman wrote:
blee wrote:
The idea is not to putt with the putter in the rough but to use it as a wedge like appraoch. It is not issue but I find that it is easier to control. Too bad the place that i usually play do not allow me to practice that. I did try it a few times in other countries. Results are not too bad!!
Bro, that technique works on your home course OCC, hardly any rough around the greens one. Wait till you kena the pubic hair rough around the greens, then try your Texas wedge lor.
Been there done that la... you need a steep angle to do it.... It was taught to be by a single hcp when I played with him in Bali a few years back and showed me how to use the putter to hit for both in rough (provided no obstacles in front) and in the bunker too!
For OCC i normally use a AW or SW get it onto the green whilst the rest wait for me patiently on the green....
slinger Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 5692 Join date : 2009-06-19 Age : 54 Location : Wild Wild West
Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:31 pm
blee wrote:
Here's a question:
What club would you pull for a downhill lie from greenside rough to a downhill sloping green with water behind?
Ans : Putter!!!!
my best solution.......
dun get yourself in this situation...... means your irons not sharp enough
pls go range more often..... safe yourself buying a 60 wedge
blee67 Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 5417 Join date : 2009-12-05 Location : Singapore
Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:32 pm
Can give me range card?
slinger Hall of Fame Golfer
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Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:34 pm
blee wrote:
Can give me range card?
heard mloy88 giving out free range cards.....
for all her victims.....
Christo72 Newbie Golfer
Posts : 84 Join date : 2009-08-20
Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:35 pm
60 deg (or more) very difficult to use - I kaypoh, bent my 58 to 60....either thin or fat (most of the time thin)....learnt my lesson....bent it back to 58....so much easier to use after....
Aloyboy Incredibly Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:36 pm
blee wrote:
Here's a question:
What club would you pull for a downhill lie from greenside rough to a downhill sloping green with water behind?
Ans : Putter!!!!
If the rough is only 1 inch, maybe can la. but if rough is 3-5 inches. U will prolly need a few shots to get out with a putter
Slicer51 Super Active Golfer
Posts : 2449 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 67 Location : Surabaya
Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:16 pm
blee wrote:
Birdman wrote:
blee wrote:
The idea is not to putt with the putter in the rough but to use it as a wedge like appraoch. It is not issue but I find that it is easier to control. Too bad the place that i usually play do not allow me to practice that. I did try it a few times in other countries. Results are not too bad!!
Bro, that technique works on your home course OCC, hardly any rough around the greens one. Wait till you kena the pubic hair rough around the greens, then try your Texas wedge lor.
Been there done that la... you need a steep angle to do it.... It was taught to be by a single hcp when I played with him in Bali a few years back and showed me how to use the putter to hit for both in rough (provided no obstacles in front) and in the bunker too!
For OCC i normally use a AW or SW get it onto the green whilst the rest wait for me patiently on the green....
Bro,
I hope one day you can teach me to do it using a putter. My problem is, I can chip better then I putt. Most of my golf buddy pull out a putter and I always use my wedges to chip even when the ball is on a short rough around the green.
I guess I am weak in distance control with my putter when the ball in short rough. I can chip closer to the pin then I putted. I just cannot get the feeling with my putter from rough so
It might be okay I guess but really wanted to learn more to have more option in my game.
scottycollector Super Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:23 pm
Christo72 wrote:
60 deg (or more) very difficult to use - I kaypoh, bent my 58 to 60....either thin or fat (most of the time thin)....learnt my lesson....bent it back to 58....so much easier to use after....
that's the danger with adjusting the loft on clubs. by bending from 58 to 60, you're effectively adding bounce to the club. which explains the thin shots, esp if hitting off the fairway / hard ground / sand.
Christo72 Newbie Golfer
Posts : 84 Join date : 2009-08-20
Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:25 pm
scottycollector wrote:
Christo72 wrote:
60 deg (or more) very difficult to use - I kaypoh, bent my 58 to 60....either thin or fat (most of the time thin)....learnt my lesson....bent it back to 58....so much easier to use after....
that's the danger with adjusting the loft on clubs. by bending from 58 to 60, you're effectively adding bounce to the club. which explains the thin shots, esp if hitting off the fairway / hard ground / sand.
Spot On!!!!
Slicer51 Super Active Golfer
Posts : 2449 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 67 Location : Surabaya
Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:33 pm
Salty Dog wrote:
mUAr_cHEe wrote:
SD, just do a 1/4 swing with your PW,50,56 for that 30-50m range...
i even did practice 1/4 swing with my 2 hybrid for that 100m low low ball...
something for you to consider...
After hearing from you and Pro Shorthitter, now i'm having second thought about 60 deg wedge.
Bro, I am not good player to give any advise but this is just my personal opinion. I use 50, 54 & 58 wedges. If situation called for a high shot and hope the ball to stop fast, I just open up my 58 like an 60 wedge.
A good friend of mine gave me a 60 wedges free but I tend to have metal game issue when I hold a 60 loft wedge. I tend to slow down my swing when I use the 60, that really kill my shot. Really need to swing as normal in speed well and have the confidence to execute the 60 loft as far as I am concern.
However, "never try never know". Just buy a second hand 60 wedges and try it yourself. I felt, hitting it might not be a big issue with more pratrice .. Hit the correct distance in demand that really need allot of hard work to get it right, regardless whether it is 60 or 54 wedges.
Birdman Course Marshal
Posts : 3799 Join date : 2009-10-09 Age : 59 Location : Wherever my feet take me....
Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:19 pm
slinger wrote:
blee wrote:
Can give me range card?
heard mloy88 giving out free range cards.....
for all her victims.....
So you also giving out some????
Birdman Course Marshal
Posts : 3799 Join date : 2009-10-09 Age : 59 Location : Wherever my feet take me....
Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:26 pm
slinger wrote:
blee wrote:
Here's a question:
What club would you pull for a downhill lie from greenside rough to a downhill sloping green with water behind?
Ans : Putter!!!!
my best solution.......
dun get yourself in this situation...... means your irons not sharp enough
pls go range more often..... safe yourself buying a 60 wedge
Very sound advice and perfectly logical.
But you are one of the few with forged katanas in place of your irons, the rest of us mere mortals only carry 4 to PW butter knives.
I don't practice enough, that's why have so many extra lob wedges on standby so I can do my scrambled egg routine.
Birdman Course Marshal
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Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:37 pm
Slicer51 wrote:
blee wrote:
Birdman wrote:
blee wrote:
The idea is not to putt with the putter in the rough but to use it as a wedge like appraoch. It is not issue but I find that it is easier to control. Too bad the place that i usually play do not allow me to practice that. I did try it a few times in other countries. Results are not too bad!!
Bro, that technique works on your home course OCC, hardly any rough around the greens one. Wait till you kena the pubic hair rough around the greens, then try your Texas wedge lor.
Been there done that la... you need a steep angle to do it.... It was taught to be by a single hcp when I played with him in Bali a few years back and showed me how to use the putter to hit for both in rough (provided no obstacles in front) and in the bunker too!
For OCC i normally use a AW or SW get it onto the green whilst the rest wait for me patiently on the green....
Bro,
I hope one day you can teach me to do it using a putter. My problem is, I can chip better then I putt. Most of my golf buddy pull out a putter and I always use my wedges to chip even when the ball is on a short rough around the green.
I guess I am weak in distance control with my putter when the ball in short rough. I can chip closer to the pin then I putted. I just cannot get the feeling with my putter from rough so
It might be okay I guess but really wanted to learn more to have more option in my game.
Slicer, I haven't really tried Blee's technique yet, but I think you shouldn't have much of an issue adjusting to it.
You know how some advice to chip with a putting stroke? This one is opposite, that's why it's called the Texas wedge. Using the putter, you address the ball the same way as with your wedge; weight on your left, handle leaning left also, so that it's ahead of the putterhead which is toward the middle of your stance. Then pick up with some wrist cock and chop down with a steep angle of attack. The ball will fly for a few feet, then land and roll the rest of the way.
Now I also itchy to practice this technique to widen my options around the green.
blee67 Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 5417 Join date : 2009-12-05 Location : Singapore
Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:56 pm
slinger wrote:
blee wrote:
Can give me range card?
heard mloy88 giving out free range cards.....
for all her victims.....
I dare not even bet with her....
blee67 Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 5417 Join date : 2009-12-05 Location : Singapore
Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:58 pm
Birdman wrote:
Slicer51 wrote:
blee wrote:
Birdman wrote:
blee wrote:
The idea is not to putt with the putter in the rough but to use it as a wedge like appraoch. It is not issue but I find that it is easier to control. Too bad the place that i usually play do not allow me to practice that. I did try it a few times in other countries. Results are not too bad!!
Bro, that technique works on your home course OCC, hardly any rough around the greens one. Wait till you kena the pubic hair rough around the greens, then try your Texas wedge lor.
Been there done that la... you need a steep angle to do it.... It was taught to be by a single hcp when I played with him in Bali a few years back and showed me how to use the putter to hit for both in rough (provided no obstacles in front) and in the bunker too!
For OCC i normally use a AW or SW get it onto the green whilst the rest wait for me patiently on the green....
Bro,
I hope one day you can teach me to do it using a putter. My problem is, I can chip better then I putt. Most of my golf buddy pull out a putter and I always use my wedges to chip even when the ball is on a short rough around the green.
I guess I am weak in distance control with my putter when the ball in short rough. I can chip closer to the pin then I putted. I just cannot get the feeling with my putter from rough so It might be okay I guess but really wanted to learn more to have more option in my game.
Slicer, I haven't really tried Blee's technique yet, but I think you shouldn't have much of an issue adjusting to it.
You know how some advice to chip with a putting stroke? This one is opposite, that's why it's called the Texas wedge. Using the putter, you address the ball the same way as with your wedge; weight on your left, handle leaning left also, so that it's ahead of the putterhead which is toward the middle of your stance. Then pick up with some wrist cock and chop down with a steep angle of attack. The ball will fly for a few feet, then land and roll the rest of the way.
Now I also itchy to practice this technique to widen my options around the green.
Spot on bro...
Pak Slicer, that was what the guy taught me. One thing you need to know is that you might want to try to want a cheaper putter .... .
kian Incredibly Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:59 pm
try and grind away the bounce la...it helps.....like sashimi knife!
Birdman Course Marshal
Posts : 3799 Join date : 2009-10-09 Age : 59 Location : Wherever my feet take me....
Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:39 pm
blee wrote:
Spot on bro...
Pak Slicer, that was what the guy taught me. One thing you need to know is that you might want to try to want a cheaper putter .... .
Ya ya bro. Not going to try it with my Zen boy. Forged some more.
Wah lau like that back to square one ma.... don't bring extra lob wedge, still got to bring extra putter...
Birdman Course Marshal
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Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:40 pm
kian wrote:
try and grind away the bounce la...it helps.....like sashimi knife!
Yahor, then I'm the one who get sliced into sushi with my own knife.
blee67 Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 5417 Join date : 2009-12-05 Location : Singapore
Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:16 pm
Birdman wrote:
blee wrote:
Spot on bro...
Pak Slicer, that was what the guy taught me. One thing you need to know is that you might want to try to want a cheaper putter .... .
Ya ya bro. Not going to try it with my Zen boy. Forged some more.
Wah lau like that back to square one ma.... don't bring extra lob wedge, still got to bring extra putter...
Mizzy, can I borrow your putter??
slinger Hall of Fame Golfer
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Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:04 pm
blee wrote:
Birdman wrote:
blee wrote:
Spot on bro...
Pak Slicer, that was what the guy taught me. One thing you need to know is that you might want to try to want a cheaper putter .... .
Ya ya bro. Not going to try it with my Zen boy. Forged some more.
Wah lau like that back to square one ma.... don't bring extra lob wedge, still got to bring extra putter...
Mizzy, can I borrow your putter??
can i borrow your wallet??
Slicer51 Super Active Golfer
Posts : 2449 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 67 Location : Surabaya
Subject: Re: Do you carry a 60 deg lob wedge? Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:27 pm
@ Blee & Birdman .. I am still using my Zim putter .. no a good idea I guess Thanks for the tip .. will try it out in the ranges but hope the ball do not roll without control