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dmateo wrote:

I'm guilty as charged. hit 350 ball last night at the range against all better judgment and common sense. I've probably made it worst now, so no range / golf / gym for at least a week or two sigh.. (still not sure if I have the dicipline to do this).

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I just knew it.

Because I'm like that too!

Lee36328 wrote:

Keep working on it as you have been doing, and I am certain it will come.

Today I changed something in my swing and just hit it terribly. Deceptively, the ball was flying to the target, but from the impact and feedback I just know I'm missing something. Turned out later according to my masseuse I had pulled a nerve on my upper left side and did not even know it, but the Miuras detected it first.

Now got to lay off the range for 1 day to heal in time for a Sat game. Bummer.

Supposed to rest, but went and hit 200 balls instead. Seems we never learn.

The good news is that it allowed me to work out the kinks in the new changes and I am compressing the ball again.

And now, with the 4 iron performing more reliably than the 18 deg hybrid, I am considering taking out the last hybrid from my bag and putting in the 3 iron. A little milestone for me if that were to happen.

i'm not extreme to hit 200 ball with a broken knee at the moment

but Lee, if your aim is to play the iron well, you need to get rid of your "cheating" club aka hybrid. That way you have no way to play other than hitting the long iron..

I've not played with hybrid ever since I switched to mizuno. Sure score was affected at the start but at the return of using 4 and 3 regularly and getting to know them better...

I'm actually supprised you have not ditch them long time ago (this is a teaser post so don't take it personally )

Cheers,

dmateo wrote:

i'm not extreme to hit 200 ball with a broken knee at the moment

but Lee, if your aim is to play the iron well, you need to get rid of your "cheating" club aka hybrid. That way you have no way to play other than hitting the long iron..

I've not played with hybrid ever since I switched to mizuno. Sure score was affected at the start but at the return of using 4 and 3 regularly and getting to know them better...

I'm actually supprised you have not ditch them long time ago (this is a teaser post so don't take it personally )

Cheers,

No pbm bro. No offence taken.

This particular 18 degree Adams Pro Black hybrid is almost blade-like in difficulty, so I used it to train up my swing to get me ready for the blade. That's why I have a soft spot for it.

But now, I have a feeling even the 3 iron would be easier to hit than this hybrid because there is a consistent progression in feel and weight from my PW all the way to the longest irons, whereas the hybrid is a sudden departure.

dmateo wrote:

I'm guilty as charged. hit 350 ball last night at the range against all better judgment and common sense. I've probably made it worst now, so no range / golf / gym for at least a week or two sigh.. (still not sure if I have the dicipline to do this).

those buttery impact is poison man.. once you have it you don't want to loose it ever.

Maybe anyone can recommend a good therapist for this type of injury in Singapore ?

Try his services to believe... He's specialized in golf related injuries, and he helped me with my knee injury to snap it back into place during the post acl operation ( though unrelated to golfing) when my rehabilitated knee was still weak...

Kang Liang Chinese Physician

Contact Details

p: 65626295
253 Jurong East St 24 #01-255
, Singapore, 600253

Thanjks bro, I will give it a try. thanks again.

Take it easy bro.

I am also trying to follow my own advice. I know it's hard.

Very good outcome today.

Six balls riding on the last hole. 190m par 3.

I took 4 iron, sweet impact, it flew straight and it landed short of the green. My partner too hybrid and overshot the green slightly, on the fringe.

My opponents, one of them was well short, the other pulled his shot to the left bunker.

When I got to the green, I found my ball was on. It must have taken several lucky bounce.

My partner 2-putt for par. With my trustee Miura black blade putter, I lagged my long uphill putt close for par as well. My two opponents bogeyed.

Adding two-par fringe (my partner and I), and my 3 consecutive pars' escalation in the last 3 holes, the last hole was worth 8 balls. In total, won by 14 balls. Nice ending, esp with my trigger finger injury. With this, my playing mates informed me they lowered my handicap from 24 to 16 based on my last 3 matches playing w them.

Both the blade putter and the long irons are growing on me. Did not touch the hybrid or the 3 wood at all.

And now, to force myself to rest to recover from the trigger finger by resting and not gripping any golf club for a while. That's going to be even harder than making par on a 190m par 3 with 4 iron and putter.

Lee,

Time for you to get an official handicap. If you get tested, I am confident to say that the tester will be giving you a 14 at the most.

Hey... 24 my a$$!

Denmeister wrote:

Lee,

Time for you to get an official handicap. If you get tested, I am confident to say that the tester will be giving you a 14 at the most.

Hey... 24 my a$$!

Must be humble la.

With a new swing and a trigger finger to boot, I was playing with serious players from east malaysia who can carry 280m and shot an albatross in that course before. In my first game, I described my recent erratic scores and the albatrosser decided to give me 14 strokes. So I had to be humble... True enough first shot in the water, several more in the water after that, shot 50+ in the first nine. Tee shot, they were easily 20-25m in front of me if the fairway was straight.

Then, the new swing kicked in, causing me to card a 41 on the way back. I never got so much ribbing in the clubhouse after that. Had to chip in and buy beer to sooth matters. They were big on beer these guys. They started commenting for someone who took up the game for 2-3 years, my swing looked smooth, and putting was consistent, etc.

After a suitable amount of beer, I showed them my youtube channels and told them about people asking me about their swing, and I shared with them my swing theories. They fell off their chairs. After they got up, they asked me for an analysis of their swings and putting, including the albatrosser. Most of them had upper-body dominated hitting actions, with active hands. These new found friends of mine were strong mesomorphs, many of them state-level athletes in various sports, so they could hit long draws with that action.

They were a jovial bunch. We spent 4 hours on golf. And 6 hours in the clubhouse drinking beer. 4 flight strong, they typically finish the clubhouse beer inventory of whichever course they played.

Most were pretty impressed with what I had to say, except for one guy who remained skeptical. He was a state player I think, was very confident he could take me on. He asked for a match. With a slightly adjusted handicap, instead of 7-7, I got 4-4 from the state player and I partnered with the albatrosser.

I knew I was in trouble when I woke up and could hardly grip a club with my left hand. I took 4 of my drivers, went to the range before the game, and tried to hit each one in turn until I found one I could handle. Turned out to be the 9.5 degree Adams with the Kaili shaft stiff flex.

Started the game well in my case. For the first 5 holes, I had a bogey, and double, and 3 pars. Tee shot a bit shaky but iron and short game covered for it. For the approach shot, I even read the wind, slope, lie, and adjusted my club selection down to half a club with choke down. Putter was on fire too, getting a sandy fairway bunker par with a 1-putt downhill, double breaker 10 footer which dropped with the last quarter roll. This is going to be great, I thought.

Then the heavens opened up and we had to wait for one hour. After the rain, I could not even hit the 8 iron properly! Cold hips and a warm belly full of halfway hut food was a recipe for a slicing driver. Took me 5 holes before I could get the feel back and tee off to hit the fairway. Man, that's at least 5 strokes I wasted, punching out from borrowed fairways or taking a drop from hazard. I had a triple bogey on the index 1 par 5, known as the hardest hole in Malaysia according to the certificate in the club.

After regaining my swing feel, things began to improve. You know me, I am unfamiliar with all the gambling permutations, but I could tell we were winning because my partner was calm and relaxed while the state player, normally a talkative jovial guy, was getting more serious-faced with each hole.

With the last few holes being tied, and playing carry over, everything was riding in the last hole.

Because I was only focusing on the shot at hand each time, I did not even realise I had an escalation 3 pars for the last 3 holes until I looked at the score card much later. Total damage was 14 balls. Front nine I had a sandy par and back nine my partner had a sandy chip in birdie on that index 1 hardest hole in Malaysia par 5. Eye opening stuff for me to see how they played. State player had a deadly sharp short game. If I missed the green, almost impossible to beat him. So I had to hit the green and count on him missing.

And of course, my unofficial handicap with them was cut after that. I think I might get 3-3 or 2-2 after this.

Once, after I hit a tee shot, he asked me, "How did you do that?"

Because he is known to like to psych his opponents, I wasn't sure what to make of it. Later I would find out it was because I hit a baby draw and he was wondering how to do that. His outside in upper body and hands action only allowed him to hit a high fade which he controlled very well.

Another long beer session followed the game. But state player did not join. I think he went home to plot his revenge.

We finished when the clubhouse closed, refused to sell us any more beer and kicked us out. It was almost 11pm.

I smell a grudge match coming. And a discussion on D plane as well. But for now, I am in a self-imposed golf exile to let the trigger finger recover.

By the way, albatrosser broke out the beers in the second nine. I discovered beer during the game would screw up my putting line initially. Until I settle into it. Then it seems to help by making me relaxed. State player refused to drink. Maybe that's why....

Forgot to mention, esp in view of the title of this thread, the blades are really coming along well for me. Did not hit a single shot with the hybrid or the wood at all in the game above. It was all driver, iron, wedge/putter.

My 10-handicap flightmates were all hitting some form of cavity back. And they found my blades too small, and visually and psychologically intimidating to hit.

I am discovering it is possible to be precise to a high degree about where I aim the irons, all the way up to 4 iron. I discovered this when I aimed right to compensate for my customary tendency to slightly hook and it went exactly where I aimed instead. Thereafter, I just aimed it where I wanted it to go.

And the putter is garnering rave reviews for my putting. A highlight, a 15-footer downhill double breaker putt which dropped into the cup with its slow motion dying roll for a sandy par after missing the fairway and missing the green. Being a blade putter with a small head, it's fussy, unforgiving, and enforces consistent good form in the stroke. In return, it rewards by giving me a good sense of speed.

writting this from a hotel lobby in Shinjuku after ski trip, I am happy for your game bro.
looks like we are reading the journey of a single handicap in the making..

way to go...

dmateo wrote:

writting this from a hotel lobby in Shinjuku after ski trip, I am happy for your game bro.
looks like we are reading the journey of a single handicap in the making..

way to go...

Thanks bro.

Wow, ski trip in Japan. Sounds fantastic. Miura factory visit too?

i think i need to review my handicap...

i am also using the same putter, and CB-501..

but i cant play like you...

so i better review my 17 handicap...


you should be a single handicap man..

andrew-golf wrote:

i think i need to review my handicap...

i am also using the same putter, and CB-501..

but i cant play like you...

so i better review my 17 handicap...


you should be a single handicap man..

ya man...u should be a 7 handicap..not 17...keke

andrew-golf wrote:

i think i need to review my handicap...

i am also using the same putter, and CB-501..

but i cant play like you...

so i better review my 17 handicap...


you should be a single handicap man..

I played with a single recently.

He was hitting almost every fairway, very long, and getting a lot of GIR. When he was in the bunker, he was out close to the pin. When he was in the rough, downslope, fast green sloping away from him, no way to stop the ball, he landed on the fringe to kill the speed and trickle the ball close. Putts inside 10 feet was almost 100%. Shot 1 over par. Later I found out, he played in the same course almost every day for a year to get there.

It's a whole different level.

golf_snowman wrote:

andrew-golf wrote:

i think i need to review my handicap...

i am also using the same putter, and CB-501..

but i cant play like you...

so i better review my 17 handicap...


you should be a single handicap man..

ya man...u should be a 7 handicap..not 17...keke

Cannot la.. I can't talk like a pro...

andrew-golf wrote:

golf_snowman wrote:

andrew-golf wrote:

i think i need to review my handicap...

i am also using the same putter, and CB-501..

but i cant play like you...

so i better review my 17 handicap...


you should be a single handicap man..

ya man...u should be a 7 handicap..not 17...keke

Cannot la.. I can't talk like a pro...

u drive like a pro, chip like a pro, putt like a pro, walk like a pro....so what's the big deal if u cant talk like a pro...and u score like a pro....you are a pro...haha !!

For now, I'd be extremely pleased if I could break 85 at Rahman Putra, followed by breaking 80. One step at a time, enjoying the journey.

By the way, I believe modesty does not help one's game. It detracts from self-confidence. If we repeat a modest limitation often enough, our subconscious starts to believe it.

Interestingly, on the flip side, false exaggeration does not help either, because at the back of our minds we know it's not true.

So, I stretch it a bit at a time, reach it, and stretch it again. Playing with low handicappers with some small stake on the line and winning, helps build confidence.

Lee36328 wrote:

dmateo wrote:

writting this from a hotel lobby in Shinjuku after ski trip, I am happy for your game bro.
looks like we are reading the journey of a single handicap in the making..

way to go...

Thanks bro.

Wow, ski trip in Japan. Sounds fantastic. Miura factory visit too?

The thought did crossed my mind, but end up not going. It's a busy trip around kanto east area, doing some catching up with old friends plus sightseeing (walking down memory lane). Maybe on my next trip I'll pay Himeji a visit and get a custom grafted club heh..

Play at OCC yesterday and had one of my best ball striking rounds in a long time. Hit 11 GIRs and 2 more on the fringe. With the exception of a blowup triple bogey on the 2nd hole (without any penalties, just bad short game and worse putting) and a double bogey on the 5th hole from blocking my drive right after trying to swing too hard and one shanked chip on the 9th (recovered for bogey), every swing felt in control. However, since we played from the white tee, taking shorter clubs into the green for the majority of shots made it much easier.

I sincerely hope that the improvement in my game lasts, but it definitely did not come by accident. I went to consult with a trained professional and realised that, over time, several bad habits had kicked in. My setup position had no resemblance to the position taught to me by my coach and that led to all sorts of other problems. Essentially, I was doing a huge "re-route" of the club coming down. I needed a backswing that was more "on-plane" and that involved setting up my body in a way that promoted such a backwing.

What was extremely interesting was that the 25 and 28 degree (5 and 6) hybrids with steel shafts that I normally rely on, turned out to be the clubs that did not feel right when used with the swing that I was essentially pin hunting when used with my irons. They seemed to be twisting and did not want to square up, resulting in shots that leaked right (about 10-15m) at the end. However, the one time I had to use a 6 iron, it flew true, and landed nicely on the green.

It is going to take more practice to ingrain the flatter swing, but the 6 iron is definitely going back into the bag, and I am going to start practicing with my 5 iron again.

That being said, I will probably need to check my setup (esp ball position and alignment) for my hybrids as there should not be a reason why a swing that works so sweetly with irons should not work with other clubs (appreciate comments here).

It has taken my nearly 2 years to learn how to hit my cb-501 6 iron properly, hopefully learning how to hit the 5 iron and any type of fairway would will take a shorter time.

Derek wrote:

Play at OCC yesterday and had one of my best ball striking rounds in a long time. Hit 11 GIRs and 2 more on the fringe. With the exception of a blowup triple bogey on the 2nd hole (without any penalties, just bad short game and worse putting) and a double bogey on the 5th hole from blocking my drive right after trying to swing too hard and one shanked chip on the 9th (recovered for bogey), every swing felt in control. However, since we played from the white tee, taking shorter clubs into the green for the majority of shots made it much easier.

I sincerely hope that the improvement in my game lasts, but it definitely did not come by accident. I went to consult with a trained professional and realised that, over time, several bad habits had kicked in. My setup position had no resemblance to the position taught to me by my coach and that led to all sorts of other problems. Essentially, I was doing a huge "re-route" of the club coming down. I needed a backswing that was more "on-plane" and that involved setting up my body in a way that promoted such a backwing.

What was extremely interesting was that the 25 and 28 degree (5 and 6) hybrids with steel shafts that I normally rely on, turned out to be the clubs that did not feel right when used with the swing that I was essentially pin hunting when used with my irons. They seemed to be twisting and did not want to square up, resulting in shots that leaked right (about 10-15m) at the end. However, the one time I had to use a 6 iron, it flew true, and landed nicely on the green.

It is going to take more practice to ingrain the flatter swing, but the 6 iron is definitely going back into the bag, and I am going to start practicing with my 5 iron again.

That being said, I will probably need to check my setup (esp ball position and alignment) for my hybrids as there should not be a reason why a swing that works so sweetly with irons should not work with other clubs (appreciate comments here).

It has taken my nearly 2 years to learn how to hit my cb-501 6 iron properly, hopefully learning how to hit the 5 iron and any type of fairway would will take a shorter time.

When is our next game ah? I want to learn from you lei...

blee wrote:

When is our next game ah? I want to learn from you lei...

bro ... I hope the improvement is consistent and lasting ... however, golf is golf, it might just end up being false hope

Derek wrote:

blee wrote:

When is our next game ah? I want to learn from you lei...

bro ... I hope the improvement is consistent and lasting ... however, golf is golf, it might just end up being false hope

Have faith bro....