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PostSubject: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 2:17 pm

Roughly how much difference in distance if we use the same club to perform the two swings??
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 2:19 pm

BTW, why and when do we need to do a punch ah?
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 2:45 pm

For me, the punch is more accurate....specifically if there is a tight green or need to go under tree......I kinda call it knock down..

But then, fm distance perspective, I still get more with full swing ..solely because I only can do 1/2 swing with punch....as my perogative then is accuracy

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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 2:50 pm

if using same back swing??
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 2:54 pm

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]quote="weesern"]if using same back swing??
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Quite high chances will duff...or the '4K' shot (ki ki kok kok)....and then roll to 10m.....

but due to my limited ability and range phobia, I can and will only do punch shot fm 6 iron and below..(7, 8 etc etc). Anything else, I die ugly ugly
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 6:11 pm

what r u calling a punch shot because my punch shot is mostly to go below wind or bellow the three ... i use most most of time normal swing i get maybe 5 meter more
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 6:14 pm

Most time because of trees then wind for me

So for you with the same club the difference only 5 metres...
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 6:57 pm

I meant if punch withhout wind .... with wind depend hw strong the win is....
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 7:17 pm

I do not use much punch shot as it is difficult to control my ball. Unless I am force to use it only when I need to shot my ball low under the tree ( I do not even consider about wind ..).

I usually use my 4 or 5 iron to do my punch as the loft was much lower then 7 or 8 irons. The long length of 4 irons does not bother me since I choke down on the club to get better control .... I only swing about 9 to 3 o'clock to hit low punch shot and hope the ball will low and roll allot.

However, with my talent. I can only do 60% distance compared to my full swing ...

Just my 2 cents .. Please correct me if there are ways to do it better Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 7:44 pm

http://www.ehow.com/how_3232_hit-punch-shot.html
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 8:50 pm

Slicer51 wrote:
I do not use much punch shot as it is difficult to control my ball. Unless I am force to use it only when I need to shot my ball low under the tree ( I do not even consider about wind ..).

I usually use my 4 or 5 iron to do my punch as the loft was much lower then 7 or 8 irons. The long length of 4 irons does not bother me since I choke down on the club to get better control .... I only swing about 9 to 3 o'clock to hit low punch shot and hope the ball will low and roll allot.

However, with my talent. I can only do 60% distance compared to my full swing ...

Just my 2 cents .. Please correct me if there are ways to do it better Smile

I think you can also try putting the ball back in your stance and also lean forward.


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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 9:26 pm

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Slicer51 wrote:
I do not use much punch shot as it is difficult to control my ball. Unless I am force to use it only when I need to shot my ball low under the tree ( I do not even consider about wind ..).

I usually use my 4 or 5 iron to do my punch as the loft was much lower then 7 or 8 irons. The long length of 4 irons does not bother me since I choke down on the club to get better control .... I only swing about 9 to 3 o'clock to hit low punch shot and hope the ball will low and roll allot.

However, with my talent. I can only do 60% distance compared to my full swing ...

Just my 2 cents .. Please correct me if there are ways to do it better Smile

I think you can also try putting the back in your stance and also lean forward.



Thank-u for the tip.....
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 10:11 pm

I think knockdown and punch shot is totally different.

Knockdown is one club less distance, good against the wind.
Punch is lower running shot, usually for recovery.

Let say for 5 iron (for me)
Full Swing - 150m carry
Knockdown - 140m carry
Punch - 60m carry but rolls depending on terrain.
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 10:15 pm

eiji wrote:
http://www.ehow.com/how_3232_hit-punch-shot.html

So punch shot is low shot? I thought punch and low shot is different????
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 10:29 pm

wah...fm the few descriptions....look like my understanding is wrong liao.....
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 10:32 pm

seebayho wrote:
eiji wrote:
http://www.ehow.com/how_3232_hit-punch-shot.html

So punch shot is low shot? I thought punch and low shot is different????

Ya. I guess they are the same..........
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 10:40 pm

My understanding of a punch and low shot is different.
A low shot is just a low shot...hitting it low.

Where as a punch short is what Tiger call a "Stinger"
A low powerful piecing shot like a laser beam shooting towards the pin.

Duval your definition is same as mine.

Well....I could be wrong......anyway as long as it is on happy leow lah.
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 10:43 pm

All I know and concern about is trajectory....low, mid and sky high....
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 10:48 pm

St. MIG wrote:
Slicer51 wrote:
I do not use much punch shot as it is difficult to control my ball. Unless I am force to use it only when I need to shot my ball low under the tree ( I do not even consider about wind ..).

I usually use my 4 or 5 iron to do my punch as the loft was much lower then 7 or 8 irons. The long length of 4 irons does not bother me since I choke down on the club to get better control .... I only swing about 9 to 3 o'clock to hit low punch shot and hope the ball will low and roll allot.

However, with my talent. I can only do 60% distance compared to my full swing ...

Just my 2 cents .. Please correct me if there are ways to do it better Smile

I think you can also try putting the back in your stance and also lean forward.

Thanks for the reminder. I do have my ball slightly back of my stance and my gap lean forward but not too much as I afraid that I might swing up during my follow through Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 10:55 pm

taskie wrote:
I think knockdown and punch shot is totally different.

Knockdown is one club less distance, good against the wind.
Punch is lower running shot, usually for recovery.

Let say for 5 iron (for me)
Full Swing - 150m carry
Knockdown - 140m carry
Punch - 60m carry but rolls depending on terrain.

Taskie,

Pardon me. May I know what is a Knockdown shot ? Could you explain how to do it ? If it is good against the wind, I guess it rather low too ?
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 11:13 pm

a knockdown is a controlled shot that is lower in trajectory to avoid the effects of wind that is usually stronger above 20-25m
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 11:33 pm

eiji wrote:
a knockdown is a controlled shot that is lower in trajectory to avoid the effects of wind that is usually stronger above 20-25m

To me, using a punch shot also can......... I HIT IT
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 11:48 pm

Although I am not expert in this, the way I do knockdown is to put the ball slightly near to right leg than normal, three-quarter swing... three quarter finish..

It is definitely lower in trajectory than normal full swing but it will stops quick also...

If I can do this everytime I actually prefer a knockdown compared to full-swing but I cannot execute it consistently.
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeSun May 30, 2010 11:59 pm

http://www.onnetworks.com/videos/golf-tips/knockdown-shot

I found this on the web.
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PostSubject: Re: Full swing vs punch   Full swing vs punch I_icon_minitimeMon May 31, 2010 12:05 am

A knockdown punch?

http://www.shark.com/sharkwatch/instruction/lesson46.php


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