Haha Adams release new models even faster... Can't wait for the new Adams Speedline LS driver, first driver wif velocity slot!
hkhamateur Incredibly Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: RBZ Stage 2 Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:18 am
escyb wrote:
Haha Adams release new models even faster... Can't wait for the new Adams Speedline LS driver, first driver wif velocity slot!
Realli? Link or pics pls, bro edwin !
escyb Senior Golfer
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Subject: Re: RBZ Stage 2 Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:18 am
Haha paiseh to author of thread....OT abit....
Got several drivers coming in 2013 tat looks killer....
RBZ Stage 2 looks gimmiky n R1 darn techy cos of the compass looking sole, has just been officially released.
Adams already officially released their new drivers for 2013.... The Speedline L n LS http://www.adamsgolf.com/products/drivers/speedline_super_ls.php
Nike Covert is also interesting - first driver wif a cavity.
Cleveland leaked news of their 2013 drivers, Classic XL n XL Custom, super deep face in black plus authentic new Miyazaki shafts - JDL n B.Asha..... http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/712206-sneak-peak-cleveland-588-rtx-wedges-and-black-classic-xl-drivers/page__st__30
Callaway's new driver for 2013 is the Razr Fit Extreme.. .I m sure Callaway fans can better explain... http://www.sirshanksalot.com/golf-news-and-rumors/callaway-razr-fit-extreme-driver/
Sorry for the OT!
simoner Super Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: RBZ Stage 2 Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:39 am
escyb wrote:
Haha paiseh to author of thread....OT abit....
Callaway's new driver for 2013 is the Razr Fit Extreme.. .I m sure Callaway fans can better explain... http://www.sirshanksalot.com/golf-news-and-rumors/callaway-razr-fit-extreme-driver/
Sorry for the OT!
Sorry for continuing to OT.
Saw the Cally Razr Fit Extreme aka The GReen Monster at The Den. Very swee club. Believe DGMan has a thread on it's performance recently.
DGman Hall of Fame Golfer
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Subject: Re: RBZ Stage 2 Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:30 am
The trend this year is to move towards a body that creates a sort of trampoline effect while the face COR stays conforming to the rules of golf...hence you will see lots of cavity, cut sole, reliefs on sole, all designed to give a more explosive impact....take a closer look, particularly those drivers coming out of endo has this feature incorporated in the driver.
next year model to note.....S-yard. yes you heard it right....new team and new vision. and in Japan, proven to be longest non-conforming driver.
with RBZ once the takeover is completed and no royalties need to be paid, the cut sole is a natural progression of the previous year wood and hybrid model.
i hope i can see the final stage in my lifetime....5555
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Subject: Re: RBZ Stage 2 Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:56 am
What? New RBZ gear? I'm shocked.
madmaru Senior Golfer
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Subject: Re: RBZ Stage 2 Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:03 pm
TM just release their new R1 driver to replace the current R11S Wah they say this driver can change loft even !!! like that when is TM changing the golfer ???
check out they got the new RBZ stage 2 driver even ....
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Subject: Re: RBZ Stage 2 Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:56 pm
Wowo! It can change loft from 8 - 12 deg! OMG!
The R1 looks high Tech and futuristic with a Compass-Like device underneath the clubhead ... I wonder if it is another marketing gimmick from the King of Golf Equipment Fashion!
TM just release their new R1 driver to replace the current R11S Wah they say this driver can change loft even !!! like that when is TM changing the golfer ???
The poisonous effect will be more manageable after GD stocks some and subsequently dumps the prices ... GD rocks, man!
crayon33 Very Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: RBZ Stage 2 Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:30 am
wow Taylormade is giving better players 10 more yards with the RBZ stage 2, so if you went from a normal fw to a RBZ to a RBZ stage 2, you will have 17+10 = 27 yards increase. no wonder golf courses are getting longer and longer and people are taking more time to finish their rounds these days
27 yards? That's 2 club lengths...who needs a driver anymore? If the fairway metals can hit driver distances without the dispersion, maybe we should all get a nice new TM fairway wood and sell our drivers.
It'll be a joke if the RBZ 2 has a longer shaft than the current RBZ - 45" 3W anyone?
crayon33 wrote:
...17+10 = 27 yards increase. no wonder golf courses are getting longer and longer and people are taking more time to finish their rounds these days
zyl107 Newbie Golfer
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Subject: Re: RBZ Stage 2 Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:39 pm
RBZ 2 looks nice.. but wonder if the R1 (coming soon to Singapore!) will hit further...
JonL_TK Incredibly Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: RBZ Stage 2 Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:56 pm
TaylorMade's Marketing is superb!!! Dunno how they managed to convince consumers that the club can go 10yards further...
Rewind to 2012 - Dustin Johnson hits a RBZ Fairway 286 yards carry for a total of 303 yards with roll - 2nd shot, DJ "cranks" it up and smashes it 317 yards with roll - 3rd shot, DJ again "cranks" it and smashes it 331 yards with roll
FastForward to 2013 - Dustin Johnson hits a RBZ Stage 2 and he guesses 275 yards (possibly carry) - TM Fitters inform him that his distance (possibly just carry) is 287 yards
Now its only 1 yard increase from last year so how did that managed to market it that it goes 10 yards further than the RBZ Stage 1?
In fact, i think Stage 2 plays shorter than the Stage 1
entity Very Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: RBZ Stage 2 Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:50 pm
Actually I don't see why TM continues to market its fairway metals based on enhanced distance.
I would be a lot more attracted to a 3 or 4 wood that allows me to connect well each and every time. A club that touts a 10 yard increase that I can probably attain 5% of the time is not worth putting in the bag, given the number of times a golfer pulls a 3W out to hit off the deck.
If the club is used to replace the driver for tee-off it makes some sense, though the increased shaft length and stronger loft also mean a wider dispersion, which in a way defeats the purpose of using a 3W as a driving club as you'd want to get the ball on the short grass, not in the rough for just a few metres extra.
essentiale Junior Golfer
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Subject: Re: RBZ Stage 2 Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:23 am
entity wrote:
Actually I don't see why TM continues to market its fairway metals based on enhanced distance.
I would be a lot more attracted to a 3 or 4 wood that allows me to connect well each and every time. A club that touts a 10 yard increase that I can probably attain 5% of the time is not worth putting in the bag, given the number of times a golfer pulls a 3W out to hit off the deck.
If the club is used to replace the driver for tee-off it makes some sense, though the increased shaft length and stronger loft also mean a wider dispersion, which in a way defeats the purpose of using a 3W as a driving club as you'd want to get the ball on the short grass, not in the rough for just a few metres extra.
+1
TheFocalPoint Incredibly Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: RBZ Stage 2 Sat Jan 12, 2013 8:41 am
entity wrote:
Actually I don't see why TM continues to market its fairway metals based on enhanced distance.
I would be a lot more attracted to a 3 or 4 wood that allows me to connect well each and every time. A club that touts a 10 yard increase that I can probably attain 5% of the time is not worth putting in the bag, given the number of times a golfer pulls a 3W out to hit off the deck.
If the club is used to replace the driver for tee-off it makes some sense, though the increased shaft length and stronger loft also mean a wider dispersion, which in a way defeats the purpose of using a 3W as a driving club as you'd want to get the ball on the short grass, not in the rough for just a few metres extra.
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You might wanna consider investing in a robotic arm. NO club or brand is gonna market 'Allows you to connect well 100% of the time'. Either way, if you're only connecting well with your 3W five times out of a hundred balls, you really need to address some bigger issues and not look for high-tech arrows for a one-handed Indian.
Anyway, lets have a game together. I won't bring the driver.
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Subject: Re: RBZ Stage 2 Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:00 am
entity wrote:
Actually I don't see why TM continues to market its fairway metals based on enhanced distance.
I would be a lot more attracted to a 3 or 4 wood that allows me to connect well each and every time. A club that touts a 10 yard increase that I can probably attain 5% of the time is not worth putting in the bag, given the number of times a golfer pulls a 3W out to hit off the deck..................
Ability to connect and hit the sweet spot consistently depends almost entirely on the Red Indian and not the Arrow. Even if one is given a club which was hand-made with high precision & quality, he/she would not be able to yield fantastic result if he/she is not skilful enough ... In other words, no clubmaker can make a golfer produces exceptionally good result if the he/she is not consistently good.
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Subject: Re: RBZ Stage 2 Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:01 am
Haha, spoken like a true TM player!
Of course no marketing team will promise "better contact", or "increased smash factor" because it is all to easy to disprove that claim. "Longer distance" is a good selling point because on that one special hit, any golfer can get that career shot that he will remember for a long time. This is also what keeps a lot of us in the game. They do not have to say "10 yards longer for most of your shots" because that will be too difficult to live up to, and again, too easy to disprove.
What I am suggesting is perhaps while the brands focus on distance, the stock shafts can start to be shorter in length again, letting average golfers have a chance to hit the sweetspot more often. This can only have a positive impact on our game, and contrary to expectation, probably gives more distance due to the better translation of clubhead speed to ball speed.
What I said about reduced success rate with the 3W is in relation to the longer shaft and stronger loft of the RBZ line compared to standard. I play older versions of TM hybrids myself and I like what they do for me, albeit with standard shaft lengths. You use aftermarket shafts in your clubs - did you cut them to standard, or to the original Superfast shaft length?
TheFocalPoint wrote:
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You might wanna consider investing in a robotic arm. NO club or brand is gonna market 'Allows you to connect well 100% of the time'. Either way, if you're only connecting well with your 3W five times out of a hundred balls, you really need to address some bigger issues and not look for high-tech arrows for a one-handed Indian.
Anyway, lets have a game together. I won't bring the driver.
entity Very Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: RBZ Stage 2 Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:14 am
Yes, the red indian-arrow thing, the oft-quoted mental heuristic mentioned here, and I agree. No amount of clubmaking can make a bad shot good. The best way to hit it 10 yards further is good coaching and practice practice practice.
If I remember DGman saying in one of his posts, the club cannot make a good golfer out of a bad one, but the right club specs can still help the golfer, particularly in making his bad shots slightly less bad (sorry for the bad paraphrasing DGman!)
With those words of wisdom I would say that anything that makes the game easier for players of lesser ability than Dustin Johnson is the way to go, and hope that the Stage 2 really does hit it longer without sacrificing consistency.
Turbo wrote:
Ability to connect and hit the sweet spot consistently depends almost entirely on the Red Indian and not the Arrow. Even if one is given a club which was hand-made with high precision & quality, he/she would not be able to yield fantastic result if he/she is not skilful enough ... In other words, no clubmaker can make a golfer produces exceptionally good result if the he/she is not consistently good.
Subject: RBZ Stage 2 
Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:58 pm
also leh...take a closer look at the new ferrule, 8.5 - 11.5
