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PostSubject: Shaft Length & Property : Cut or Choke down...   Shaft Length & Property : Cut or Choke down... I_icon_minitimeTue Dec 04, 2012 4:41 pm

Hi guys,

Need imput from fitter or expert here...

Wat is the different of cutting down shaft to the length u wanna play with and/or choking it down to the prefer length?

Any changes in property of the shaft, especially driver shaft say :

1. a shaft trim at the butt n play at 45"

2. same model of shaft trim to 44" at butt, but was extended by an inch n play at 45"....

Thx in advance for ur input...

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PostSubject: Re: Shaft Length & Property : Cut or Choke down...   Shaft Length & Property : Cut or Choke down... I_icon_minitimeTue Dec 04, 2012 4:47 pm

Neighbour, I'm considering this as well. You see, my current driver is 45.5, recently I tried the new 913 which is only 45, felt more comfortable releasing the head and distance did not lose out as well. That's why I wonder, is it the club overall balance or the head alone.
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enwee wrote:
Neighbour, I'm considering this as well. You see, my current driver is 45.5, recently I tried the new 913 which is only 45, felt more comfortable releasing the head and distance did not lose out as well. That's why I wonder, is it the club overall balance or the head alone.

Ha ha... Lets hope some expert here can help...
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3131T wrote:
Hi guys,

Need imput from fitter or expert here...

Wat is the different of cutting down shaft to the length u wanna play with and/or choking it down to the prefer length?

Any changes in property of the shaft, especially driver shaft say :

1. a shaft trim at the butt n play at 45"

2. same model of shaft trim to 44" at butt, but was extended by an inch n play at 45"....

Thx in advance for ur input...


Bro Pat, if too long n dun wanna cut or choke...sell me yr 913 lor! Razz Razz
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hkhamateur wrote:
3131T wrote:
Hi guys,

Need imput from fitter or expert here...

Wat is the different of cutting down shaft to the length u wanna play with and/or choking it down to the prefer length?

Any changes in property of the shaft, especially driver shaft say :

1. a shaft trim at the butt n play at 45"

2. same model of shaft trim to 44" at butt, but was extended by an inch n play at 45"....

Thx in advance for ur input...


Bro Pat, if too long n dun wanna cut or choke...sell me yr 913 lor! Razz Razz
913 already 45....
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PostSubject: Re: Shaft Length & Property : Cut or Choke down...   Shaft Length & Property : Cut or Choke down... I_icon_minitimeTue Dec 04, 2012 6:42 pm

enwee wrote:
hkhamateur wrote:
3131T wrote:
Hi guys,

Need imput from fitter or expert here...

Wat is the different of cutting down shaft to the length u wanna play with and/or choking it down to the prefer length?

Any changes in property of the shaft, especially driver shaft say :

1. a shaft trim at the butt n play at 45"

2. same model of shaft trim to 44" at butt, but was extended by an inch n play at 45"....

Thx in advance for ur input...


Bro Pat, if too long n dun wanna cut or choke...sell me yr 913 lor! Razz Razz
913 already 45....

Mayb our dear pat aged so need 0.25-0.5 shorter? Laughing
Or he wanna follow B.Watson n play w a 44”! Wink
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hkhamateur wrote:
3131T wrote:
Hi guys,

Need imput from fitter or expert here...

Wat is the different of cutting down shaft to the length u wanna play with and/or choking it down to the prefer length?

Any changes in property of the shaft, especially driver shaft say :

1. a shaft trim at the butt n play at 45"

2. same model of shaft trim to 44" at butt, but was extended by an inch n play at 45"....

Thx in advance for ur input...


Bro Pat, if too long n dun wanna cut or choke...sell me yr 913 lor! Razz Razz

I've a (913-4) head only... Ai mai? sell u cheap cheap...

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Mayb our dear pat aged so need 0.25-0.5 shorter? Laughing
Or he wanna follow B.Watson n play w a 44”! Wink

lol!

Dun let ur ego distroy u... One can't avoid aging...

I came to know a pro n a single hcp playing at 44.25 , so why not trying...

B.Wattson play 44? Oh... I can choose to play like AK... Choke down more... Razz Razz Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Shaft Length & Property : Cut or Choke down...   Shaft Length & Property : Cut or Choke down... I_icon_minitimeTue Dec 04, 2012 10:48 pm

just curious, if tall guys like B Wattson play 44, does asian like me about 5'5 plays 40? hehe.. just a curious questions, not sure any club fitter or DGman can give his view?

Honestly, i am also looking at cutting my driver to try out, some where around 44 or 43.

Any GRians here have cut their shaft shorter and can give some reviews on it?

Appreciate it!

Cheers!

Regards
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snagy23 wrote:
just curious, if tall guys like B Wattson play 44, does asian like me about 5'5 plays 40? hehe.. just a curious questions, not sure any club fitter or DGman can give his view?

Honestly, i am also looking at cutting my driver to try out, some where around 44 or 43.

Any GRians here have cut their shaft shorter and can give some reviews on it?

Appreciate it!

Cheers!

Regards

Ya lor... like Ak... he choke down so much n yet hit so far...

Agree with u... I guess DGman will be the best person to comment and advise us on this...
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waiting for DGman's advice
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PostSubject: Re: Shaft Length & Property : Cut or Choke down...   Shaft Length & Property : Cut or Choke down... I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 05, 2012 3:58 pm

Hi Pat, regarding ur question on what is the difference between cutting down the shaft and choking down on it, i think that if u cut down, u change not just the swing weight but the overall weight. Whereas if u choke down, whilst u will achieve a similar swing weight, the overall weight is unchanged ie heavier than if u were to cut down.

anyway, i think must be careful about cutting down too much. cos a 60+g shaft may suddenly become a 50+g shaft, and the swingweight will go haywire. it's safer to mess around with shafts if u have a driver head which allows u to adjust the weights eg. r11s, so u can always achieve your desired swingweight.
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you will loose 6 swing weight when cutting down to 44". So if you don't add any weight to the head, the head will feel much lighter.

I suggest you bring your driver to a professional fitter. They won't just cut the butt end of the shaft but will adjust swingweight accordingly.
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rkangrah wrote:

you will loose 6 swing weight when cutting down to 44". So if you don't add any weight to the head, the head will feel much lighter.

I suggest you bring your driver to a professional fitter. They won't just cut the butt end of the shaft but will adjust swingweight accordingly.
If tipped it the flex will change as well may change for S to X
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scottycollector wrote:
Hi Pat, regarding ur question on what is the difference between cutting down the shaft and choking down on it, i think that if u cut down, u change not just the swing weight but the overall weight. Whereas if u choke down, whilst u will achieve a similar swing weight, the overall weight is unchanged ie heavier than if u were to cut down.

anyway, i think must be careful about cutting down too much. cos a 60+g shaft may suddenly become a 50+g shaft, and the swingweight will go haywire. it's safer to mess around with shafts if u have a driver head which allows u to adjust the weights eg. r11s, so u can always achieve your desired swingweight.

Hi Luke... Thx for sharing... Thats the reason Im choking down now instead of getting it cut...
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rkangrah wrote:

you will loose 6 swing weight when cutting down to 44". So if you don't add any weight to the head, the head will feel much lighter.

I suggest you bring your driver to a professional fitter. They won't just cut the butt end of the shaft but will adjust swingweight accordingly.

Yup yup... iirc an inch is abt 6 pts different on driver shaft...

Guess eventually as per ur advice, will look for a fitter to sort it out...

Thats a point sounds interesting by my buddy is that the kick pts might be affected too for the senerio from my 1st post.

But how much difference n the property of the shaft change will be interesting to know. Now, it might voice down to Physics theory...
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rkangrah wrote:

you will loose 6 swing weight when cutting down to 44". So if you don't add any weight to the head, the head will feel much lighter.

I suggest you bring your driver to a professional fitter. They won't just cut the butt end of the shaft but will adjust swingweight accordingly.

Yup yup... iirc an inch is abt 6 pts different on driver shaft...

Guess eventually as per ur advice, will look for a fitter to sort it out...

Thats a point sounds interesting by my buddy is that the kick pts might be affected too for the senerio from my 1st post.

But how much difference n the property of the shaft change will be interesting to know. Now, it might voice down to Physics theory...

Finally my bro has a direction liao! Wink
Once resolved, pls inform us accordingly as we ll need to adjust e strokes play equally too. Laughing
Think by then, i m takg fm u 1-1 or 2-2 hor! Smile
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Finally my bro has a direction liao! Wink
Once resolved, pls inform us accordingly as we ll need to adjust e strokes play equally too. Laughing
Think by then, i m takg fm u 1-1 or 2-2 hor! Smile

Mai kay kay hor... Our 3-3 game from u long overdue liao...

Mai Siam hor...
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PostSubject: Re: Shaft Length & Property : Cut or Choke down...   Shaft Length & Property : Cut or Choke down... I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 08, 2012 10:59 pm

hi hi 3131T

By choking down is fine, u will just feel that your grip size is abit smaller.
Length is something through your comfort, as long as you are able to sq ur ckub face.
More Pros like B watson, Big Easy Els , Garsia n even Tiger dont play at 45inch.
they play about 44 1/2 inch.
The longer the driver, it is harder to sq upon down swing.
If u do cut down ur shaft, do at weight back if not the swing weight will be abit light.
I am 6 ft tall and my driver is 44 1/2 inch.
Choose the right shaft weight, right flex, right swing weight and grip size,
it will help.

Go see a Certified clubfitter, i am sure they can help n give u advise.

Thanks n cheers mate
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jloo61 wrote:
hi hi 3131T

By choking down is fine, u will just feel that your grip size is abit smaller.
Length is something through your comfort, as long as you are able to sq ur ckub face.
More Pros like B watson, Big Easy Els , Garsia n even Tiger dont play at 45inch.
they play about 44 1/2 inch.
The longer the driver, it is harder to sq upon down swing.
If u do cut down ur shaft, do at weight back if not the swing weight will be abit light.
I am 6 ft tall and my driver is 44 1/2 inch.
Choose the right shaft weight, right flex, right swing weight and grip size,
it will help.

Go see a Certified clubfitter, i am sure they can help n give u advise.

Thanks n cheers mate

Thx for sharing mate... Appreciate that...

Can share wat u mean "do at weight back"... TIA...
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PostSubject: Re: Shaft Length & Property : Cut or Choke down...   Shaft Length & Property : Cut or Choke down... I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 09, 2012 3:04 am

u need to add weight back on the head if u are cutting down the shaft. either that or use a lighter grip to maintain swingweight. can add lead tape or hotmelt
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essentiale wrote:
u need to add weight back on the head if u are cutting down the shaft. either that or use a lighter grip to maintain swingweight. can add lead tape or hotmelt

Understand... But does it explain wat jloo mean by "do at weight back"?
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Of course. Probably typo la "add" not "at"
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essentiale wrote:
Of course. Probably typo la "add" not "at"

oh... lol!
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Hi just an update, that i gone over to den to get my driver re shaft, my 1st time trying after market shalf, which is Xcaliber regular. have it cut to 44.5 and able to maintain D1 swing weight with some kind of glue being poured into the driver head to increase weight.
Played in batam today and yes, i am able to hit more fairway and better control.
But i am sure it is not for everyone to cut the shaft.

below is a pic of my white burner superfast 2.0. cheers.

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