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PostSubject: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 6:55 pm

I have been pondering.. Driving long really makes a differences.
After having taking strokes and yet still lose.
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 7:30 pm

Arriving is just as important if not more important...
But driving long does help!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 7:38 pm

JonL_TK wrote:
Arriving is just as important if not more important...
But driving long does help!!!

u drive longer than me.....
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 7:57 pm

Longer drives helps and makes a slight difference for white tees but makes a huge difference off blue tees.
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 7:58 pm

I wana drive long!! If not difficult to play blue tee...
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 8:00 pm

slinger wrote:
JonL_TK wrote:
Arriving is just as important if not more important...
But driving long does help!!!

u drive longer than me.....
Errr... but you arrive better!!!
That's why you can play even par at Kranji
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 8:02 pm

I want to drive long and arrive too.. not easy lor when playing with zx, asahi and ghoonk.. sigh..
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 8:19 pm

blee2007 wrote:
I want to drive long and arrive too.. not easy lor when playing with zx, asahi and ghoonk.. sigh..

Brother, you should not mention me in the same length as these two lor.
Me at least 30m behind them.

Hope His longness aka alvin's tip for me on Sun can help me to get extra distance.
lol!


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asahi wrote:
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I want to drive long and arrive too.. not easy lor when playing with zx, asahi and ghoonk.. sigh..

Brother, you should not mention me in the same length as these two lor.
Me at least 30m behind them.

His longness aka alvin's tip for me on Sun can help me to get extra distance.
lol!

See... with his tips, you now classified as long hitter liao lor.. Very Happy
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blee2007 wrote:
I want to drive long and arrive too.. not easy lor when playing with zx, asahi and ghoonk.. sigh..

compared to you.. i can't drive and can't arrive.. sigh..
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 8:32 pm

Aiyah, missed out 1 key word. Edited Liao. Hehe
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 8:33 pm

mizzy wrote:
blee2007 wrote:
I want to drive long and arrive too.. not easy lor when playing with zx, asahi and ghoonk.. sigh..

compared to you.. i can't drive and can't arrive.. sigh..

Can you trash talk? I need you for next Saturday ah.. don't forget.. Very Happy
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asahi wrote:
Aiyah, missed out 1 key word. Edited Liao. Hehe

haha.. too late. you classifed long hitter liao.. White Flag
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 8:35 pm

blee2007 wrote:
mizzy wrote:
blee2007 wrote:
I want to drive long and arrive too.. not easy lor when playing with zx, asahi and ghoonk.. sigh..

compared to you.. i can't drive and can't arrive.. sigh..

Can you trash talk? I need you for next Saturday ah.. don't forget.. Very Happy

ok.. i'll just trash talk.. don't need to bring clubs.. but i may need balls.. What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 8:37 pm

mizzy wrote:
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mizzy wrote:
blee2007 wrote:
I want to drive long and arrive too.. not easy lor when playing with zx, asahi and ghoonk.. sigh..

compared to you.. i can't drive and can't arrive.. sigh..

Can you trash talk? I need you for next Saturday ah.. don't forget.. Very Happy

ok.. i'll just trash talk.. don't need to bring clubs.. but i may need balls.. What a Face

I got 10 z-stars practice balls from you know who and i also a couple of pro v1 practice balls from another you know who.. how? Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 8:38 pm

blee2007 wrote:
mizzy wrote:
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mizzy wrote:
blee2007 wrote:
I want to drive long and arrive too.. not easy lor when playing with zx, asahi and ghoonk.. sigh..

compared to you.. i can't drive and can't arrive.. sigh..

Can you trash talk? I need you for next Saturday ah.. don't forget.. Very Happy

ok.. i'll just trash talk.. don't need to bring clubs.. but i may need balls.. What a Face

I got 10 z-stars practice balls from you know who and i also a couple of pro v1 practice balls from another you know who.. how? Very Happy

ehh. i think the balls you refer to and the balls i refer to are different type of balls.. What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 8:41 pm

Will only help if your iron play is sufficiently good to make more GIR, or at least put you in a good position to get up-and-down.

I was a pretty decent driver when I first started out - a good 30 metres past what I do today, but my iron play is so much sharper now, I hit the green much more often.

Now if I can just learn to putt...
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 8:41 pm

blee2007 wrote:
asahi wrote:
Aiyah, missed out 1 key word. Edited Liao. Hehe

haha.. too late. you classifed long hitter liao..

alvin, where are you? Need you to clarify for me. White Flag
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I'll take a straight drive over a long drive.
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 8:43 pm

mizzy wrote:
blee2007 wrote:
mizzy wrote:
blee2007 wrote:
mizzy wrote:
blee2007 wrote:
I want to drive long and arrive too.. not easy lor when playing with zx, asahi and ghoonk.. sigh..

compared to you.. i can't drive and can't arrive.. sigh..

Can you trash talk? I need you for next Saturday ah.. don't forget.. Very Happy

ok.. i'll just trash talk.. don't need to bring clubs.. but i may need balls.. What a Face

I got 10 z-stars practice balls from you know who and i also a couple of pro v1 practice balls from another you know who.. how? Very Happy

ehh. i think the balls you refer to and the balls i refer to are different type of balls.. What a Face

Ohhh... but hor, can still these balls to replace? ROFL
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tpcml wrote:
Will only help if your iron play is sufficiently good to make more GIR, or at least put you in a good position to get up-and-down.

I was a pretty decent driver when I first started out - a good 30 metres past what I do today, but my iron play is so much sharper now, I hit the green much more often.

Now if I can just learn to putt...

I sensse we got a good player here.. ZX, do your job!!! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 8:54 pm

blee2007 wrote:
tpcml wrote:
Will only help if your iron play is sufficiently good to make more GIR, or at least put you in a good position to get up-and-down.

I was a pretty decent driver when I first started out - a good 30 metres past what I do today, but my iron play is so much sharper now, I hit the green much more often.

Now if I can just learn to putt...

I sensse we got a good player here.. ZX, do your job!!! Very Happy

No man, I'm a donkey...
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tpcml wrote:
blee2007 wrote:
tpcml wrote:
Will only help if your iron play is sufficiently good to make more GIR, or at least put you in a good position to get up-and-down.

I was a pretty decent driver when I first started out - a good 30 metres past what I do today, but my iron play is so much sharper now, I hit the green much more often.

Now if I can just learn to putt...

I sensse we got a good player here.. ZX, do your job!!! Very Happy

No man, I'm a donkey...

What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 8:59 pm

i am just a little anal.. so i just put done the analysis a little bit.. hehe

suppose for par 4 and 5s.. average distance for each is like 340-400 and 420-580 meters

a long driver will be hitting 280-300 meters smelly smelly?

so the second shot in is averaging 100 meters for par 4 and 120-300 meters for par 5.

So for the Par 4s and shorter Par 5s, and being in the fairway, being a long driver really helps i would guess, as the second shot is already looking to get on the green. that makes about 10 to 12 holes per round of 14 holes (par 4 and 5s) where you would be looking at a 2 on!

conversely if i hit it short, say 200m at best. On Par 4s, i'm still 140 meters away at best and 200m at worst.
and on a Par 5, i'm still 220m away at best and 380m at worst.

that makes me going for the green by the third shot on 5 par 4 holes and none of the par 5s.

I then have the result as follows;
Long Drive: 2 on in 10/14 holes at worst
Short Drive: 2 on in 5/14 holes at best
so that means a 5 stroke differential on paper.

What do you think? any flaws in my reasoning?
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PostSubject: Re: Does long drive really helps   Does long drive really helps I_icon_minitimeTue Nov 23, 2010 9:03 pm

mizzy wrote:
i am just a little anal.. so i just put done the analysis a little bit.. hehe

suppose for par 4 and 5s.. average distance for each is like 340-400 and 420-580 meters

a long driver will be hitting 280-300 meters smelly smelly?

so the second shot in is averaging 100 meters for par 4 and 120-300 meters for par 5.

So for the Par 4s and shorter Par 5s, and being in the fairway, being a long driver really helps i would guess, as the second shot is already looking to get on the green. that makes about 10 to 12 holes per round of 14 holes (par 4 and 5s) where you would be looking at a 2 on!

conversely if i hit it short, say 200m at best. On Par 4s, i'm still 140 meters away at best and 200m at worst.
and on a Par 5, i'm still 220m away at best and 380m at worst.

that makes me going for the green by the third shot on 5 par 4 holes and none of the par 5s.

I then have the result as follows;
Long Drive: 2 on in 10/14 holes at worst
Short Drive: 2 on in 5/14 holes at best
so that means a 5 stroke differential on paper.

What do you think? any flaws in my reasoning?

Bro, very cheem la.. i fail math one..
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