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Casey KC Newbie Golfer
Posts : 37 Join date : 2011-03-30
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:51 am | |
| i once asked Eric what technology there is in a putter. I can understand the technology in driver, woods, hybrids and irons, but putter? it's all abt feel, practice and skills. the zen putter is a gd training putter. once well fitted, u get a gd feel, & u feel confident in your putts - tt's key in golf! confidence. | |
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mUAr_cHEe Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 7237 Join date : 2009-06-19 Location : Sillypore
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:50 am | |
| No technology in Zen? eh. u better take that back, dude. | |
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asahi Course Marshal
Posts : 10361 Join date : 2009-12-19 Age : 47
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:55 am | |
| RDE technology present in ZEN putters. | |
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Casey KC Newbie Golfer
Posts : 37 Join date : 2011-03-30
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:00 am | |
| as i said, i'm a new golfer and not much serious knowledge about equipment. that there's no technology in putter did not come from me..... once you've identified your lie, you have a good feel for the distance, you should be able to putt blindfolded - I was told by a golf guru! | |
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Casey KC Newbie Golfer
Posts : 37 Join date : 2011-03-30
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:00 am | |
| BTW, what is RDE technology? | |
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asahi Course Marshal
Posts : 10361 Join date : 2009-12-19 Age : 47
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:14 am | |
| http://www.zenoracle.com/
Hi Casey, it means Reduced Dimple Error.
And yes, technology is not enuf. Need to get properly fitted (lie, loft, length) for improved putting. | |
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Casey KC Newbie Golfer
Posts : 37 Join date : 2011-03-30
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:17 am | |
| very interesting. makes sense too. thanks for the information and link, asahi. | |
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samT Very Active Golfer
Posts : 775 Join date : 2009-06-23 Location : Singapore
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:19 pm | |
| I worked in a "technology" organisation. It does amaze me sometimes how infrequent my R&D scientists use the word "technology", when I read about emerging technologies from reports (and newspapers) everyday! Strip down something (my favorite is the WiFi or WiMax "technology" because they are current) and see what the underlying technologies really are. Its quite an interesting exercise. BTW, I am guilty of using the word "technology" very often in the papers I write. It is a job hazard | |
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golf_snowman Incredibly Active Golfer
Posts : 2851 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 52 Location : Dreamland
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:27 pm | |
| haha...i have the same feel too...
personally i'm in the semi-conductor industry and you can imagin how often 'Technology' is being used.....but given the fact that most of the 'technology' here are really 'old technology' as compare to country like Korea, Taiwan and US....
but no matter what, it's still a form of 'Technology'...haha !!! | |
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samT Very Active Golfer
Posts : 775 Join date : 2009-06-23 Location : Singapore
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:54 pm | |
| Hahaha. Recently I told someone not to use the term "ASIC technology". I told him that ASIC is not a technology. Actually it is a bloody costly exercise to simply produce a product using existing technologies for a specific use. True? | |
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tronos Super Active Golfer
Posts : 1121 Join date : 2009-06-21
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:20 pm | |
| where is my putter with
-advance aerodynamic technology so that the putter will not slow down and verve off due to wind resistance (which causes those pesky short putts and putts that just miss the hole)
-advance metal composition with the most resilient, hardest surface (to prevent dinks and dents) but softest feel.
-latest coating technology, with anti-glare technology, to give a true color definition.
-new rubber hybrid manufacturing to produce the most comfortable grip | |
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DGman Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 6385 Join date : 2009-06-18
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:10 pm | |
| ZEN with RDE is the only putter with a ridge, others are groove. in simple terms, one is emboss rounded lines and the others are debossed grooves.
there are other reasons why the RDE is termed as the most accurate putter face. Academics found out long ago that the ball dimple is the cause of path error. When a putter face strokes through a dimple ball, the contact point can be altered because of the dimples on the ball.
Besides RDE which offers better ball grip on contact, the ZEN putters are milled to a precise measurement for horizontal budge and vertical roll. Hence the ball will generate stay on line and do not lose much variance on off centre hits. If you have a ZEN Putter you can find out what i mean. Draw a straight line on a piece of paper and lined up the putter face along that line. Now you will discover another unique feature that minimises dispersion.
There are other patents on the ZOM or Oracle. The Oracle is both a training device and a putter thats for any level of play under the R&A rules. The Zen-i was born out of necessity to enable eveyone a chance to train with an Oracle while using their own putter.
Last but not least, not many people are aware that ZEN brought Scotty Cameron to task on the introduction of the Cube. The case was settled out of court and a licensing agreement was put in place for Scotty Cameron to pay licensing for production of the Cube.
Acushnet Licenses Zen Oracle's Technology For Its Cameron Cube Golf Training Aid
Whether Technology is to be used here is subject to one's opinion but in a broad stroke and because of my relationship with the founder, owner, designers and the key people behind ZEN, i can only say that they are light years ahead in many aspects.
Those who have had the chance the try the new ZOM and soon-to-be release ZIM will attest that no putters are built or roll like that. Thats just a couple more patents on those two than the ZA series.
DGman
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mengteck71 Super Active Golfer
Posts : 1766 Join date : 2009-06-27 Age : 53
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:30 pm | |
| Boss,
Have to visit u when i back from overseas in May. My putting sucks lol | |
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Casey KC Newbie Golfer
Posts : 37 Join date : 2011-03-30
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:33 pm | |
| from the discussion so far, it seems like the ZEN putter is a die-die-must-try! when i save enough money to buy one, I'll look for Eric. | |
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samT Very Active Golfer
Posts : 775 Join date : 2009-06-23 Location : Singapore
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:28 pm | |
| Eric,
Had always wanted to ask you this - is there a pictorial illustration between a ridge and groove? Probably a cross-section view is fine. I always have problem explaining them to my frens when they see my Zen, YES and RIFE putters. Thanks in advance. | |
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DGman Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 6385 Join date : 2009-06-18
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:14 pm | |
| Sam.....imagine a road divider is a ridge and a drain is a groove.
the illustration will be on the new website..should go live by this weekend.
www.zenoracle.co.uk
DGman | |
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Kopi Towkay Very Active Golfer
Posts : 531 Join date : 2009-06-22 Location : One Degree North!
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:45 pm | |
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asahi Course Marshal
Posts : 10361 Join date : 2009-12-19 Age : 47
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:50 pm | |
| Yup. Witnessed the whole fitting session.
And I can report that KT was as happy as a 16 yr old getting his first taste of the lollipop!
More birdies on the way, KT!
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samT Very Active Golfer
Posts : 775 Join date : 2009-06-23 Location : Singapore
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:38 am | |
| - DGman wrote:
- Sam.....imagine a road divider is a ridge and a drain is a groove.
the illustration will be on the new website..should go live by this weekend.
www.zenoracle.co.uk
DGman Eric, thanks. I think the illustration will help much in explaining the innovation in RDE, among other innovations. | |
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shamusan Incredibly Active Golfer
Posts : 2789 Join date : 2010-05-10 Age : 39 Location : In YOUR fairway...
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Fri Apr 01, 2011 12:44 am | |
| wow, 36.5 inch???
KT, are you like 6ft 6inch+???
sorry, i'm just amazed...
sorry for the OT | |
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Agumon Super Active Golfer
Posts : 1071 Join date : 2009-09-08 Location : Singapore
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:11 am | |
| ahh KT ....those choco marshmallows did the trick.. welcome to CLUB ZEN.... Shamusan he is a head taller than u... | |
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shamusan Incredibly Active Golfer
Posts : 2789 Join date : 2010-05-10 Age : 39 Location : In YOUR fairway...
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:02 am | |
| damn... this guy i wanna meet!!!!
KT congrats on your first Zen... let us know when you get your second, cos you will soon i'm sure! | |
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duffader Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 5599 Join date : 2010-01-28
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:13 am | |
| Sham, u never met Kopitowkay before??? | |
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chinchiachun Very Active Golfer
Posts : 649 Join date : 2009-06-19 Location : Singapore
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:26 am | |
| Maybe another come out from boon lay one, dunno lastic. | |
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DGman Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 6385 Join date : 2009-06-18
| Subject: Re: ZEN Putters Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:41 am | |
| - samT wrote:
- DGman wrote:
- Sam.....imagine a road divider is a ridge and a drain is a groove.
the illustration will be on the new website..should go live by this weekend.
www.zenoracle.co.uk
DGman Eric, thanks. I think the illustration will help much in explaining the innovation in RDE, among other innovations. illustration is not according to scale to protect trade interest. hope you can understand. here's what we have been talking about..... thanks....DGman
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