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PostSubject: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 11:48 am

I had a mate who had been using TM clubs (driver, woods, irons and putter, etc) and no matter how hard he tried, he just couldnt go beyond 80s. Soon he been questioning whether the problem lies with his skill or the clubs.
Any opinion on this


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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 12:00 pm

Must say who then I tell you the answer. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 12:02 pm

bro ..

a few thing you can try.

1. you try his TM club..if ball flys, then maybe clubs is not the major problem
2. if he is new to the game, maybe get him a pro would be a better option to find out more

just my thought only

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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 12:07 pm

ChrisD wrote:
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LMAO.
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 12:08 pm

ChrisD, the only way to find out is to get him to try a different set of clubs for a period about a year, then we can all see the answer clearly.

It would help if he uses tour-proven equipment. E.g., Scotties and stuff...
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 12:27 pm

Ermm... 'mental' problem probably??? geek
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 1:51 pm

Maybe the Indian, not the arrows.......but to be certain see a club fitter or pro
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 1:55 pm

mUAr_cHEe wrote:
ChrisD wrote:
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LMAO.


Hahahaha.... this is a dam good one... I like...
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 2:07 pm

It is not nice to make fun on ppls pain guys...

what goes around, comes around...
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 2:14 pm

how about not trying?

no expectation -> no pressure -> clearer and calmer mind -> better swing -> hopefully better score
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 2:36 pm

hoelwill wrote:
It is not nice to make fun on ppls pain guys...

what goes around, comes around...

agree wif u bro,

Constructive suggestion is good, but if start to make fun of it, better leave the thread alone

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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 3:12 pm

hoelwill wrote:
It is not nice to make fun on ppls pain guys...

what goes around, comes around...

Where got anyone making fun of ppl. Think you being a little sensitive here
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 3:15 pm

when one had broken 80s or even playing to scratch, he will be looking into consistency,

Consistence in score

require
Consistence in swing

require
Consistence in practice

require
Consistence in Time

require
Consistence in Income

For equipment,

Consistence in equipment

require
Consistence in visiting club fitter

require
consistence in swing

require
Consistence in practice

require
Consistence in Time

require
Consistence in Income

So, ask yourself, how many consistence have you fulfilled?
Poor me Embarassed is still working hard to be " consistence in income" Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 3:17 pm

WaLau wrote:

Poor me Embarassed is still working hard to be " consistence in income" Embarassed

Hum... I have no problem achieving a consistence income... I got a problem with LOW income... hehe..
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 3:20 pm

Many children has been nurtured to believe that one can achieve anything if one gives his/her best effort....

As such then, for me, I will say that it is the issue with the club....

Even today, I don blame my bad shoulder, my laziness, my bad course management, my screwup reading of green and my over weight self.......I just blame my clubs...

Stupid Driver...cannot go far and straight...still only carry 172.4m
Stupid Irons....always top the ball,
Stupid Wedge ....ball hit liao ,cannot bite
Stupid Putter......aim and still miss the hole frm 3 ft...
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 3:22 pm

ChrisD wrote:
I had a mate who had been using TM clubs (driver, woods, irons and putter, etc) and no matter how hard he tried, he just couldnt go beyond 80s. Soon he been questioning whether the problem lies with his skill or the clubs.
Any opinion on this


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Did your friend wear Adidas apparel too?............... when did sergio garcia needs our advise?
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 3:23 pm

I have lousy skills ....
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 3:27 pm

Duval_S wrote:
Many children has been nurtured to believe that one can achieve anything if one gives his/her best effort....

As such then, for me, I will say that it is the issue with the club....

Even today, I don blame my bad shoulder, my laziness, my bad course management, my screwup reading of green and my over weight self.......I just blame my clubs...

Stupid Driver...cannot go far and straight...still only carry 172.4m
Stupid Irons....always top the ball,
Stupid Wedge ....ball hit liao ,cannot bite
Stupid Putter......aim and still miss the hole frm 3 ft...

For your case it sounds like there is nothing wrong with the clubs.... problem lies with the ball u using... Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 3:54 pm

i believe many a time, it's the golfers prob.....

clubs r dead n consistent unless u hammer it till spoilt... but our swing always have some hcanges ...even the pro's....

well tht's how i feel... coz i sux big time but my club nvr change....lolz.... it's the golfer not the clubs.....
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 4:11 pm

if its the indian, we dont need to go for club fitting anymore. we dont even need different shaft flex or material, lie, loft, offset, SW, shaft length, type........
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 5:29 pm

tronos wrote:
if its the indian, we dont need to go for club fitting anymore. we dont even need different shaft flex or material, lie, loft, offset, SW, shaft length, type........

disagree... we still need equip tht suits us....
cant possible ask a hard hitter to use a lady's flex...

i do still believe fitting is important..if possible..

and the rest is hard work, determination n look for pro for fine tuning regularly....

Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 5:51 pm

JT.. i think u mean u agree with tronos.. u both sayign the same thing Very Happy

back to original topic, 80s leh, something i can only dream of... dun even think i can score tat on TW game! i would think see a fitter 1st, then a pro....
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 6:05 pm

Vokey wedges = -2 shots
Nike Method Putter = -2 shots
Cobra ZL Driver = -1 shots
Mizuno irons = -2 shots
Titleist ball = -1 shots

Total -8 shots liao........TM equip a bit off tolerance so not so accurate.

Very Happy

female caddy to massage ur aching shoulders during game = -1 shot
Free flow of beer during the game = +5 shots
big $$ on the line = -5 shots / -20 shots (for Buayas)
small $$ on the line = - 5 shots / +10 shots (for Buayas)
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 6:42 pm

mowen wrote:
I have lousy skills ....

You have lousy skills??????????????????????????????????
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PostSubject: Re: Clubs or Skill Problem   Clubs or Skill Problem I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 22, 2010 6:45 pm

I believe its 80% skill and 20% eqpt. You need to be equiped with the right tools. But before you go there, you need to attain a certain skill level first.

If not, why do you think club-fitters like DGman would reject customers' business of fitting shafts if he thought they did not have sufficient skills level?
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