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Subject: Ballmarks On Green Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:37 pm
Do you repair your ballmarks? I notice some of the people I play with don't. Sometimes, its plain laziness, bo chup-ness and others its because they do not go out of their way to look for theirs.
Ballmarks are an eyesore on greens and a bane to putt over. Please repair yours.
Also, many people do not know the proper way to repair them. Do it once, do it right and everyone will be thankful.
PS: Watch the way you walk over greens too. Ballmarks on your line can be repaired but spikemarks cannot be till after your putt.
Last edited by S70B on Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:28 am; edited 2 times in total
Lamts18 Incredibly Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:41 pm
i do ... Sir... repairs mine and those i can see... its saddens me to see a unrepaired ball mark or a divot..
S70B Course Marshal
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:47 pm
Steven, you play in TMCC....where greens are almost immaculate.
I'm talking about courses with higher traffic like MBGCC, NSRCC and those in JB.
Lamts18 Incredibly Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:56 pm
S70B wrote:
Steven, you play in TMCC....where greens are almost immaculate.
I'm talking about courses with higher traffic like MBGCC, NSRCC and those in JB.
I think no matter where one play, its good habit and good golf etiquette to repairs ball marks and divots... it dont take too much time to do it at all...
Ssquirrel Super Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:01 pm
S70B wrote:
Also, many people do not know the proper way to repair them. Do it once, do it right and everyone will be thankful.
How to repair ballmarks
And that's why the Scotty "pivot tool" promotes improper repair!!
Hehehehe.. but better than dun repair lor...
S70B Course Marshal
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:03 pm
They do nothing but create hype and collector craze.
Best ones are still those given free by clubs.
Uncle Lau Super Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:16 pm
I pass my handicap test by repairing ballmark and filling up divot on the course (handicap at Seletar Base GC 2002)
Always enjoy filling up divot and repairing pitchmark on any course from NSRCC to Palm Resort ! It help me to calm down and regroup if i hit a bad shots....
If you keep repairing and filling up divot and ballmarks on the course and green....the back flight dare not rush you as they thought you are the Golf Committee....
I actually enjoying keeping pitch marker and Ball markers....
Duval_S Hall of Fame Golfer
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:13 pm
I believe in Karma-logy....and the phrase 'what comes around, go around'. With both in mind, I have many moons ago ensure that I have the pitch marker available.....pai seh, previously only use tee to fix...then kena F#$& .......surprisingly, golf score been improving although at a snail pace.
jimmychoo Super Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:19 am
Duval_S wrote:
pai seh, previously only use tee to fix...then kena F#$& .......surprisingly, golf score been improving although at a snail pace.
What's wrong to use a tee to repair the ball mark?
Duval_S Hall of Fame Golfer
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:52 am
jimmychoo wrote:
Duval_S wrote:
pai seh, previously only use tee to fix...then kena F#$& .......surprisingly, golf score been improving although at a snail pace.
What's wrong to use a tee to repair the ball mark?
errr...donno le...but could be becos it does not have the 'spade' function like the pitch marker. But nevertheless, since then, I thought that the pitch marker is not heavy and not ex....might as well just follow the right procedure lor.....but on the other hand, there is always the view that if really did not bring, then better use tee than don repair at all..
jimmychoo Super Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:06 am
Duval_S wrote:
errr...donno le...but could be becos it does not have the 'spade' function like the pitch marker. But nevertheless, since then, I thought that the pitch marker is not heavy and not ex....might as well just follow the right procedure lor.....but on the other hand, there is always the view that if really did not bring, then better use tee than don repair at all..
I have been using a tee to repair ball mark and with the correct way, I don't see it's wrong to use leh.....
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:15 am
jimmychoo wrote:
Duval_S wrote:
errr...donno le...but could be becos it does not have the 'spade' function like the pitch marker. But nevertheless, since then, I thought that the pitch marker is not heavy and not ex....might as well just follow the right procedure lor.....but on the other hand, there is always the view that if really did not bring, then better use tee than don repair at all..
I have been using a tee to repair ball mark and with the correct way, I don't see it's wrong to use leh.....
Bro Jimmy, pls don get me wrong...as I am not stating what is right or wrong. Just tat, I was told during one of my games quite awhile ago to use the right tool...that's all. Better repair than no repair ...I will leave the right or wrong to the green keepers.
jimmychoo Super Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:31 am
Duval_S wrote:
Bro Jimmy, pls don get me wrong...as I am not stating what is right or wrong. Just tat, I was told during one of my games quite awhile ago to use the right tool...that's all. Better repair than no repair ...I will leave the right or wrong to the green keepers.
Haha...Bro Duval, no wrong no wrong ...... as long we are repairing the ball mark, we are correct half way. The other half is to do it the correct way. All those repairing ball mark are welcome
S70B Course Marshal
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:19 pm
The pro in the video I attached is using a tee. It works just as well if you know how to use it properly.
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:34 pm
S70B wrote:
Do you repair your ballmarks? I notice some of the people I play with don't. Sometimes, its plain laziness, bo chup-ness and others its because they do not go out of their way to look for theirs.
Ballmarks are an eyesore on greens and a bane to putt over. Please repair yours.
Also, many people do not know the proper way to repair them. Do it once, do it right and everyone will be thankful.
How to repair ballmarks
PS: Watch the way you walk over greens too. Ballmarks on your line can be repaired but spikemarks cannot be till after your putt.
I try to repair ballmarks on the green whether or not they are in my line of sight though I'm sure I may have missed many along the way. What I see, I try to fix.
clarencekim Very Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:02 pm
I had a gold-plated long-tined Rolex one until wify 'confiscated' it from me.
Now, same as JC, me use two wooden tees to repair ball marks.
I tried to repair my ball marks even at Tee One (ex-Royal Tanglin 9 hole, Par 3 course) a few days ago and could not find the ball mark because there were too many other pits and ball marks on the green.
Still managed +3 score over 9 holes using just a putter, PW and 9 iron. (My best so far at NSRCC's 9-hole course was +4 as it was also at Mandai Exec GC.)
If only I shot close to that on a full-size course! Just call me 'Prince of the Micky Mouse Courses'.
I have not even broke 100 yet over 18-holes on a full-size course.
CK
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:09 am
then you must be a par 3 expert!
clarencekim Very Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:20 pm
The good thing is I can make par on full-size course par-3 holes usually unless the Par 3s are ridiculously long like 190-200 metre monsters with many hazards or water surrounding the green or steep dual-tier surfaces.
Played Dendro at OCC this morning and would have scored under 100 (gross) if I had the time to continue another nine holes most likely--grossed 48. And that is even with a stupid score of 8 on Hole #1--hit too far right into the short trees, chipped onto fairway with wedge, fairway shot landed in a large greenside bunker, repeat bunker flub shot (too short pitch), long downhill putt back towards hole, missed two short putts.
Tempted to throw my Scotty into the bushes in anger but controlled my temper as the OCC marshalls were watching our flight.
Made up for a few bad holes later with two pars -- one was a par 3 hole and the other a par 5 (from blue tees) hole.
C'est la golfe!
CK
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:41 am
I am making this a sticky. Pls take time to repair your ball mark the next time. I am sure your flight mates and the flight waiting behind will not mind.
S70B Course Marshal
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:29 am
Imbedded the video on the 1st post too.
Birdman Course Marshal
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:50 pm
If I may add on so as to assist greenskeepers and newer golfers...
Most current designs (Scotty Cameron included) are outdated, designed based on what was once deemed the correct way to repair divots by lifting up the centre of the pitchmark. Why haven't they changed? Perhaps cos the tools are so cheap, it doesn't make sense to redesign the divot tools and the machines that manufacture them due to cost, so just keep making and selling them to rake in the profits. They still can be used to repair pitchmarks the correct way (applies to those divot tools with a bend in them), just flip them over so you have a convex bend (instead of a concave bend) when inserting into the ground.
There are new designs emerging that facilitate repairing pitchmarks the correct way, like the Champ FlipFix II which has a smoked silver gloss finish. Not too heavy in the pocket yet still with a nice heft and fit in the hand. As you can see from the black parts in the pic , the underside is rubberized. Well made, the hinge locks in place with a soft click when opened. I got mine at Golf House by the way, for a little over $20.
In case anyone is thinking of getting a nice divot tool after seeing the video, here's a short review:
With shorter and wider tapered prongs the newly-designed Flip Fix II has added durability while still making it easy to slip into the turf and repair the deepest of ball impressions. The Flip Fix II also features a clam-shell mobile phone-style closure which allows it to be comfortably stored in the pocket without the golfer receiving a sharp poke in the wrong place at the wrong time. The Champ logo is a magnetic ball marker.
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:00 am
I played TMCC Gardens right after HSBC and you can imagine the greens were just awesome, smooth like a carpet. But during the marshall thank you game two days later, I found many pitch/ball marks un-repaired. Very ironic especially when marshalls were playing. I tried to repair them while waiting for others to putt. But I was quite dissapointed when one of my flight mate joked sarcastically that the other golfers dont repair because they know I will. Not funny.
Just played OCC last weekend and as usual, many pitch marks weren't repaired.
Thot I bumped this up for us GR-ians to lead by example. You may be ridiculed but hope we all do the right thing. Because we all want to play a smooth green. They dont happen by chance.
Fighting!
blee67 Hall of Fame Golfer
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:03 am
I agree with you PS. The other thing is that divots are not repaired too!
sob Very Active Golfer
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:11 am
Wait til these pple have a clutch putt that they need to make, putt online, tracking well, Kenna ball mark and miss hole!!
Duval_S Hall of Fame Golfer
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Subject: Re: Ballmarks On Green Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:23 am
I cant agree more. But I am pretty sure I am the least possible culprit
why? my bloody ball flt is 4ft fm ground level most times....if anything, the ball mark is on the fairway...before trikle to green
Regardless, yes....repairing is the way to go.....unless one don believe in Karma. BTW, I was also coach on repairing by a PGA pro Daniel Chopra thru golf channel (my one stop golf coaching resource)