Free Relief from Flower Bed???

Just to clarify local rules for Marina Bay

Flower beds are entitled to free relief, there is no need to retrieve the ball.

However, there is nothing to stop players from deciding that flower beds are considered hazrds, which is a much more fair way to play.

But if cannot see the ball but 100% sure the ball when in ... How? Rake the flower bed to find the ball but don't need to retrieve to protect the flowers?

Derek wrote:

Just to clarify local rules for Marina Bay

Flower beds are entitled to free relief, there is no need to retrieve the ball.

However, there is nothing to stop players from deciding that flower beds are considered hazrds, which is a much more fair way to play.

If club ruling says flower bed is free drop without the need to retrieve the ball then golfers have to following, unless it's their own ruling when big bets are involved.

If the club says do not retrieve the ball , then you don't go in and retrieve the ball .. thats simple! The club does not want the flower beds damaged, and hence a sign that implies DO NOT ENTER

Don't need to retrieve = don't need to see? My flight mate say if cannot see the ball considered lost ball. Myself I auto drop at point of entry until he told me so. This is a 2 stroke swing

Wah.. that means the ball on that short par 4 earlier in marina bay which hooked to the left is considered my second shot.

Considering that is not a penalty, and i shot a par with a stroke penalty, that means it just transformed to a birdie for me.... hoo hooo.....

tronos wrote:

Don't need to retrieve = don't need to see? My flight mate say if cannot see the ball considered lost ball. Myself I auto drop at point of entry until he told me so. This is a 2 stroke swing

As long as you are sure it entered the flower bed, you are entitled to free relief.

Please note this is MBGC local rule only, developed for Pace of Play purposes. In a serious tournament, we will consider setting up flower beds as hazards.

Derek, even if ball nt found in flower bed also free relief???

Thot ball must be found?

Begbie wrote:

Wah.. that means the ball on that short par 4 earlier in marina bay which hooked to the left is considered my second shot.

Considering that is not a penalty, and i shot a par with a stroke penalty, that means it just transformed to a birdie for me.... hoo hooo.....

Sigh, I knew I was playing with a buaya just now....

ball need not be found.

Like I said, as long as you are sure it went into the flower bed.

As this rule is open to interpretation and abuse, when betting, it is much more fair to treat flower beds as hazards.

Also, please note difference between flower beds and the low trees on right side of hole 4. No free relief there, play as it lies or declare unplayable.

blee2007 wrote:

Begbie wrote:

Wah.. that means the ball on that short par 4 earlier in marina bay which hooked to the left is considered my second shot.

Considering that is not a penalty, and i shot a par with a stroke penalty, that means it just transformed to a birdie for me.... hoo hooo.....

Sigh, I knew I was playing with a buaya just now....

last few games, I felt more like the pig... hahaa..

Anyways, it was a good game followed by a hearty lunch and TCSS....

Thanks for organising the game bro...

Begbie wrote:

blee2007 wrote:

Begbie wrote:

Wah.. that means the ball on that short par 4 earlier in marina bay which hooked to the left is considered my second shot.

Considering that is not a penalty, and i shot a par with a stroke penalty, that means it just transformed to a birdie for me.... hoo hooo.....

Sigh, I knew I was playing with a buaya just now....

last few games, I felt more like the pig... hahaa..

Anyways, it was a good game followed by a hearty lunch and TCSS....

Thanks for organising the game bro...

Welcome.. i promise this sunday's game, I will be more serious...

blee2007 wrote:

Begbie wrote:

blee2007 wrote:

Begbie wrote:

Wah.. that means the ball on that short par 4 earlier in marina bay which hooked to the left is considered my second shot.

Considering that is not a penalty, and i shot a par with a stroke penalty, that means it just transformed to a birdie for me.... hoo hooo.....

Sigh, I knew I was playing with a buaya just now....

last few games, I felt more like the pig... hahaa..

Anyways, it was a good game followed by a hearty lunch and TCSS....

Thanks for organising the game bro...

Welcome.. i promise this sunday's game, I will be more serious...

Its holiday golf bro.. If i haven't had a wager with Dave, it will be a different story too.. Now that I found out that my par just transformed to a birdie, I have to let him know that he just lost by 1 hole as we were on level for the whole 18.... hooo hoooo!!!!

and you never buy chicken wings.. hahahahahaha

Begbie wrote:

blee2007 wrote:

Begbie wrote:

blee2007 wrote:

Begbie wrote:

Wah.. that means the ball on that short par 4 earlier in marina bay which hooked to the left is considered my second shot.

Considering that is not a penalty, and i shot a par with a stroke penalty, that means it just transformed to a birdie for me.... hoo hooo.....

Sigh, I knew I was playing with a buaya just now....

last few games, I felt more like the pig... hahaa..

Anyways, it was a good game followed by a hearty lunch and TCSS....

Thanks for organising the game bro...

Welcome.. i promise this sunday's game, I will be more serious...

Its holiday golf bro.. If i haven't had a wager with Dave, it will be a different story too.. Now that I found out that my par just transformed to a birdie, I have to let him know that he just lost by 1 hole as we were on level for the whole 18.... hooo hoooo!!!!

OMG.. I'm so happy till I forgot I already won him that hole.. So its still a level game coz he bogeyed that hole.. no blood still .. SHUCKS!11

blee2007 wrote:

and you never buy chicken wings.. hahahahahaha

Haha... thats true... this Sunday I buy ok?

Still...... never buy chicken wings.... see my earlier post...

Sunday chicken wings on you... hahahahahhahaha

asahi wrote:

Derek, even if ball nt found in flower bed also free relief???

Thot ball must be found?

As Derek said for MBGC ... Ball need not be sighted / found etc ... free relief as long as you and your flightmates are in agreement the ball went somewhere in there ... after all, golf is a gentleman's game, and rules are made keeping that in mind!

oh and even if you see your ball, you are not supposed to go in and get it etc ... preserve the flowerbeds and we'll do the grounds ppl a favor!

Derek wrote:

ball need not be found.

Like I said, as long as you are sure it went into the flower bed.

As this rule is open to interpretation and abuse, when betting, it is much more fair to treat flower beds as hazards.

Also, please note difference between flower beds and the low trees on right side of hole 4. No free relief there, play as it lies or declare unplayable.

derek, if treated as hazards, then it mean take one stroke penalty and drop ball within two club length no shorter to the hole?

or can go all the way back to tee box while keeping a straight line to the hole?

Whats TCSS??

TCSS = talk cock sing song