Nicole Seah: unscripted, unrehearsed interview @ Aljunied market

if you have a group of ppl that only knows how to say yes to the head, I do not think this is good.

It is good to have a minority of people that will "challenge" the proposal so after the "challenging", they can come up with a better proposal.

All this should be done with the ultimate goal in mind and not to sabotage each other.

Look at LBH, retired and finally make noise about what he does not agree... look at OTC, he wants to be president to make some changes but in the end he is overpowered.

and68low wrote:

Let me put it in golfing contexts about " LKY's we cannot anyhow "change" government." I for one believe in that thinking...... Look at SICC, since the inception of transferable membership, the members wanted "Change" and they fought very hard to have the Club be run by elected members instead of appointees holding the key positions..... thats is fine... wait !... they not only wanted elected members BUT wanted "New members"(newly bought) to be run the club ! Without strong roots, culture, history and much understanding of the club. They even have convincing manifesto which never acted. the fateful day came and "new members" were voted into power and follow by ousting out all the "Old management"..... Guess what happens.... the club have gone to the Dogs since....why ? they keep reinventing the wheels(ie policies and structures) and from a leading club in Singapore and now SICC is lagging far behind TMCC and SENTOSA(they have not change since day one) !

Yes I am afraid of "Change" especially to change for the sake of changing , nothing is perfect and no one can please everyone or sector, somethings have to give in or will be less satisfied ..... so, if it is doing "OK" and not spoilt, Do Not change !

Back to Sicc again, their election is round the corner .. from the grapevine, now they want a "change back" to let the experience one run the club !

Painfully learned by members and wasted years of enduring poor management !

Dont regret for what you asked for ..... or is it the grass is greener on the other side ?

That why you are always the Captain deep in my heart
I don't like the present governing party as well for some of their policies but I have to admit that most of their policies are still there for the good of the country and people.
I just hope that they will look into the over populated foreigner issue. It make me feel like kana invaded!

jimmychoo wrote:

and68low wrote:

Let me put it in golfing contexts about " LKY's we cannot anyhow "change" government." I for one believe in that thinking...... Look at SICC, since the inception of transferable membership, the members wanted "Change" and they fought very hard to have the Club be run by elected members instead of appointees holding the key positions..... thats is fine... wait !... they not only wanted elected members BUT wanted "New members"(newly bought) to be run the club ! Without strong roots, culture, history and much understanding of the club. They even have convincing manifesto which never acted. the fateful day came and "new members" were voted into power and follow by ousting out all the "Old management"..... Guess what happens.... the club have gone to the Dogs since....why ? they keep reinventing the wheels(ie policies and structures) and from a leading club in Singapore and now SICC is lagging far behind TMCC and SENTOSA(they have not change since day one) !

Yes I am afraid of "Change" especially to change for the sake of changing , nothing is perfect and no one can please everyone or sector, somethings have to give in or will be less satisfied ..... so, if it is doing "OK" and not spoilt, Do Not change !

Back to Sicc again, their election is round the corner .. from the grapevine, now they want a "change back" to let the experience one run the club !

Painfully learned by members and wasted years of enduring poor management !

Dont regret for what you asked for ..... or is it the grass is greener on the other side ?

That why you are always the Captain deep in my heart
I don't like the present governing party as well for some of their policies but I have to admit that most of their policies are still there for the good of the country and people.
I just hope that they will look into the over populated foreigner issue. It make me feel like kana invaded!

No choice lah.... singaporeans dun want to work as general workers leh. And at engineer levels, one normal engineer pay might be able to get 2-3 FT engineers. So in order to make the company more competitive, some companies have no choice.

duffader wrote:

No choice lah.... singaporeans dun want to work as general workers leh. And at engineer levels, one normal engineer pay might be able to get 2-3 FT engineers. So in order to make the company more competitive, some companies have no choice.

This is unfortunately true. A few of friend in engineering sector have these problem. SGrean just don't want to do these type of jobs. What do you expect SG company to do when they cant even attract single SGrean applicants?

Great, friendly debate and fantastic analogies drawn out in this thread.

It is such insightful and mature sharing that we would all learn about the various perspectives held by different ppl.

And the reason why we did not lock this thread even though our R & R spells out, "no discussion of politics."
Discussion and ideas sharing should be conducted as such; in a meaningful/purposeful manner.

Well done ppl!

Why so much talk about Foreign Talent? SGians simply despise working as General Workers as its degrading to them!!!

Instead of complaining about Foreign Talents coming to Singapore, why not consider going overseas to work and become a Foreign Talent?

Is the life in SG that cushy that one doesn't want to uproot and maybe do something about it instead of complaining?

Talking about change... Is one willing to reinvent themselves or does one just expect that society change to suit them?

JonL_TK wrote:

Why so much talk about Foreign Talent? SGians simply despise working as General Workers as its degrading to them!!!

Instead of complaining about Foreign Talents coming to Singapore, why not consider going overseas to work and become a Foreign Talent?

Is the life in SG that cushy that one doesn't want to uproot and maybe do something about it instead of complaining?

Talking about change... Is one willing to reinvent themselves or does one just expect that society change to suit them?

Wah, Ms lee, for the months that we have been friends, you have shown that you know something besides robbing the tour vans...

duffader wrote:

JonL_TK wrote:

Why so much talk about Foreign Talent? SGians simply despise working as General Workers as its degrading to them!!!

Instead of complaining about Foreign Talents coming to Singapore, why not consider going overseas to work and become a Foreign Talent?

Is the life in SG that cushy that one doesn't want to uproot and maybe do something about it instead of complaining?

Talking about change... Is one willing to reinvent themselves or does one just expect that society change to suit them?

Wah, Ms lee, for the months that we have been friends, you have shown that you know something besides robbing the tour vans...

I also Foreign Talent in a Foreign land mah...

JonL_TK wrote:

duffader wrote:

JonL_TK wrote:

Why so much talk about Foreign Talent? SGians simply despise working as General Workers as its degrading to them!!!

Instead of complaining about Foreign Talents coming to Singapore, why not consider going overseas to work and become a Foreign Talent?

Is the life in SG that cushy that one doesn't want to uproot and maybe do something about it instead of complaining?

Talking about change... Is one willing to reinvent themselves or does one just expect that society change to suit them?

Wah, Ms lee, for the months that we have been friends, you have shown that you know something besides robbing the tour vans...

I also Foreign Talent in a Foreign land mah...

You are not foreign talent lah, you are higher level than that..... you are foreign Ah Seah Kia

jimmychoo wrote:

JonL_TK wrote:

duffader wrote:

JonL_TK wrote:

Why so much talk about Foreign Talent? SGians simply despise working as General Workers as its degrading to them!!!

Instead of complaining about Foreign Talents coming to Singapore, why not consider going overseas to work and become a Foreign Talent?

Is the life in SG that cushy that one doesn't want to uproot and maybe do something about it instead of complaining?

Talking about change... Is one willing to reinvent themselves or does one just expect that society change to suit them?

Wah, Ms lee, for the months that we have been friends, you have shown that you know something besides robbing the tour vans...

I also Foreign Talent in a Foreign land mah...

You are not foreign talent lah, you are higher level than that..... you are foreign Ah Seah Kia

No such role lah...

There is a difference between foreign workers and foreign talents leh.

Khorkar wrote:

duffader wrote:

No choice lah.... singaporeans dun want to work as general workers leh. And at engineer levels, one normal engineer pay might be able to get 2-3 FT engineers. So in order to make the company more competitive, some companies have no choice.

This is unfortunately true. A few of friend in engineering sector have these problem. SGrean just don't want to do these type of jobs. What do you expect SG company to do when they cant even attract single SGrean applicants?

not that SG company cant attract local applicants, just that MNCs offer more than SMEs....

local firms cant beat the rates n peaks offer by the Esso and the Shell.....

slinger wrote:

Khorkar wrote:

duffader wrote:

No choice lah.... singaporeans dun want to work as general workers leh. And at engineer levels, one normal engineer pay might be able to get 2-3 FT engineers. So in order to make the company more competitive, some companies have no choice.

This is unfortunately true. A few of friend in engineering sector have these problem. SGrean just don't want to do these type of jobs. What do you expect SG company to do when they cant even attract single SGrean applicants?

not that SG company cant attract local applicants, just that MNCs offer more than SMEs....

local firms cant beat the rates n peaks offer by the Esso and the Shell.....

Written like a True Towkay!!!

He is indeed .........

my shifu is not only a towkay, but also a gentlemanly golfer with encouraging words for his flight mates, he's won my admiration.

zhenxua wrote:

my shifu is not only a towkay, but also a gentlemanly golfer with encouraging words for his flight mates, he's won my admiration.

Try playing Vegas with him without dividing by 2.

apparently, there was a whole forum thread about her sweating. Looks like I can be good friends with her...

Why this hawker can't afford to maintain prices
Letter from Edward Chan 02:05 PM Apr 26, 2011

I read with interest that the Retail Price Watch Group (RPWG) enlisted more than 120 hawker stalls to pledge to maintain their prices for six months. Mr Lee Yi Shyan, Chairman of the RPWG, Minister of State for Trade and Industry and Manpower and MP for East Coast GRC, was present to launch the initiative on March 20. The RPWG was "encouraged to see more businesses taking the initiative to help Singaporeans mitigate increases in prices."

Despite the Ministry of Trade and Industry's efforts to maintain food prices at hawker centres, it is with regret and trepidation that I read about the high-handed stance that the National Environment Agency is taking toward hawkers. My retiree friend was notified by NEA that his stall at Old Airport Hawker Centre had been "assessed by professional valuers to be fair and reasonable" regarding his rental increase from S$1,110 to S$1,500 with effect from April 1, after taking into account "stall size, location and the prevailing economic conditions". This letter came in response to his appeal through Mr Lim Biow Chuan, MP for Marine Parade GRC.

It leaves me saddened that agencies are taking initiatives counter to each other's. On the one hand, MTI wants to keep inflation low and prices stable. On the other hand, NEA is bent on keeping in line with "prevailing economic conditions". My friend is keen to maintain his prices but with a 36 per cent increase in rental, he will find it difficult not to pass this price increase to his customers.

NEA's letter also states: "If you have difficulty maintaining your stall rent, you may consider assigning the stall to an eligible party or surrendering it to NEA." This is his livelihood as a retiree. So it's a take it or leave it approach? Such compassion, coming from the civil service. I can understand if this were a private landlord.

Mizzy, your article is a typical case whereby multiple agencies have their own agenda and objectives which are not aligned.

no one talking about perspiring xmm?

nutty88 wrote:

Mizzy, your article is a typical case whereby multiple agencies have their own agenda and objectives which are not aligned.

well policy comes down from ministers from on high..

mUAr_cHEe wrote:

no one talking about perspiring xmm?

you like sweaty xmm hur? best if round, cushy and sweaty..

mizzy wrote:

mUAr_cHEe wrote:

no one talking about perspiring xmm?

you like sweaty xmm hur? best if round, cushy and sweaty..

i am actually trying to stay on topic.

mizzy wrote:

nutty88 wrote:

Mizzy, your article is a typical case whereby multiple agencies have their own agenda and objectives which are not aligned.

well policy comes down from ministers from on high..

Mizzy
I agree, Ministers on a high are losing touch with reality on-ground folks...It is sad and naive that Govt think 1 Grow n Share package can lower rising costs... tell that to the retiree stallholder "Cheng Hu huo li $$ tao chui, jia chui gia tuo ting"

Given that ministers high salary are peg to top earners in private sector, where is the accountability?

If a CEO were to burst his AOP by 3x, i am sure shareholders or Board will question, but when it comes to our YOG, the response was "Other countries Winter/Summer/Olympic Games costs more" Is that an explanation?

Same for Mas Selamat.... so there is definitely a lack of reconcile and disconnect

Ultimately we all have 1 vote

Mizzy,

Dont need to post so much...

I vote for you la... Make sure its in Ang suah.