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+9JonL_TK Birdman Winston samT weesern Aloyboy mizzy duffader TheFocalPoint 13 posters | Author | Message |
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TheFocalPoint Incredibly Active Golfer
Posts : 3010 Join date : 2009-10-01
| Subject: Taylormade xFT Wedges Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:06 pm | |
| Finally tried my new wedges today at Laguna. And after a good workout from the bay, the fringe, slight rough and even in the bunker, all i can say is : Like a hot knife melting through butter... The spin out of the bunker and watching the ball come to a complete grind after two hops was simply climax inducing... I thought to myself, "Geez, i dun wanna wear out these grooves too soon..." But then i realised i've got 2 spare face plates, and i could change them for some brand new 'teeth' anytime i wanted.. These babies are a definite keeper! From Hackers Paradise : I have very mixed feelings about this wedge and very little has to do with performance. The xFT wedge performs great and the feel is better than most that have been put out recently according to our testers. The faceplate makes perfect sense in theory. I replace my wedges yearly because of worn grooves and quite frankly if cost was not a factor, I would replace them more often. The faceplate gives that ability to me and others like me to have a brand new wedge a couple of times a year. While this makes perfect sense from a consumer stand point and it is a refreshing idea that is 100% positive innovation, we are not sure the average golfer will catch on.
The problem that we are struggling with is while most people SHOULD replace their wedges more frequently than they do, they do not and we will not due to cost and many other factors. I firmly believe that wedges are marketed better than any other club and that most golfers are playing the wrong wedges for their game both in brand and style. My personal opinion, but something I have said for a number of years. Because of these things people look each year at innovation and club technology different and with new technology coming out each and every year, the only way to make this work is to make the faces backwards and forwards compatible with future wedge development each year. If this turns out to just be a single line of wedges and the company has other lines, I do not believe that golfers will try them out.
However back to the wedge by itself, Taylormade Golf has something that they should be extremely proud of. I have never been a huge fan of their wedges and the xFT has changed that. The club offers soft feel, great weighting, solid performance, and the ability to adjust and replace the grooves myself for a fraction of the cost of full replacement. For more information on these wedges or any other product that Taylormade Golf has out, check out their website at www.taylormadegolf.com.
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| | | duffader Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 5599 Join date : 2010-01-28
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:37 pm | |
| Wow, TFP, you should quit teaching and work for Taylormade instead. BTW, if the faceplate come loose in the middle of the game, any penalty for tightening them??? | |
| | | TheFocalPoint Incredibly Active Golfer
Posts : 3010 Join date : 2009-10-01
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:40 pm | |
| If your shoelaces came loose during the game, any penalty for tying it? d-uh! | |
| | | mizzy Incredibly Active Golfer
Posts : 2702 Join date : 2009-12-11 Location : golf club graveyard
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:43 pm | |
| Bro TFP,
can i ask how the prices are like? tks | |
| | | TheFocalPoint Incredibly Active Golfer
Posts : 3010 Join date : 2009-10-01
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:45 pm | |
| Can't really say the pricing here la, cuz got different retailers reading forum, so out of respect for them, i'll just say i paid less than $170 each.. | |
| | | Aloyboy Incredibly Active Golfer
Posts : 2714 Join date : 2009-09-03 Age : 38 Location : EEEEAAAASSSSTTTTT
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:10 pm | |
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| | | duffader Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 5599 Join date : 2010-01-28
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:48 am | |
| - TheFocalPoint wrote:
- If your shoelaces came loose during the game, any penalty for tying it? d-uh!
Hahahah.. from the way you answer... guess you do not really know the rules...... | |
| | | weesern Super Active Golfer
Posts : 1597 Join date : 2009-06-21
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:10 am | |
| how much will a replacement faceplate cost? | |
| | | duffader Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 5599 Join date : 2010-01-28
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:14 pm | |
| but seriously, confirm can tighten along the way if faceplate loosen??? | |
| | | samT Very Active Golfer
Posts : 775 Join date : 2009-06-23 Location : Singapore
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:28 pm | |
| I am not sure if you can make adjustment to any club once you started the round. But things could have changed after the introduction of all these "adjustable" stuff. | |
| | | Winston Super Active Golfer
Posts : 1723 Join date : 2009-08-18 Age : 50 Location : 19th Hole
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:35 pm | |
| If I remember correctly, once you ahve started the round, you are not allowed to make any adjustments to your clubs. You are only allowed to make adjustments before the start of the round. I know that this ruling apply's to drivers. Not so sure about the face plate for wedges. Maybe someone well versed in the rules can give their input on this matter. | |
| | | Birdman Course Marshal
Posts : 3799 Join date : 2009-10-09 Age : 59 Location : Wherever my feet take me....
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:42 pm | |
| I am no rules expert, but to my knowledge, you are not allowed to make any adjustments to your equipment during the round. Drivers cannot be adjusted for loft and face angle with the wrenches, so by extension, that would apply to the wedges too. Loosening of the face plate and weights would most likely apply as well, but I could be wrong.
Prior to adjustable clubs, any club broken during a round cannot be replaced and the round has to be finished with whatever you have in your bag. Angel Cabrera's driver head twisted loose after a drive at the Singapore Barclay's the year he won. He finished the round with his 3 wood off the tee. | |
| | | JonL_TK Incredibly Active Golfer
Posts : 2668 Join date : 2009-12-23 Age : 43 Location : Pasir Gudang / Singapore
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:13 pm | |
| Moral of the story: Check that your faceplate is screwed on tight before each round! | |
| | | daveaha Course Marshal
Posts : 3179 Join date : 2009-06-22 Age : 48 Location : Singapore
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:20 pm | |
| - JonL_TK wrote:
- Moral of the story: Check that your faceplate is screwed on tight before each round!
2nd moral of the story, if really needed, bring your wedge to the toilet, and adjust it in there while you're doing your urgent business... | |
| | | eiji Course Marshal
Posts : 6193 Join date : 2009-08-22 Age : 43 Location : Training
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:36 pm | |
| - weesern wrote:
- how much will a replacement faceplate cost?
online its something like 35usd, so yeah its cheaper to replace the faceplate. not sure how often you would replace it though, as it depends on your mileage with the club. unless u r hitting some 200shots per day like the touring pros, i think each wedge can last about a year at least | |
| | | TheFocalPoint Incredibly Active Golfer
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| | | | duffader Hall of Fame Golfer
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| | | | weesern Super Active Golfer
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| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:38 pm | |
| I think u are allow to change a damage club if the club is damaged during normal course of play.... something like this happen to Anthony Kim last year and also another golfer this year... Anthony Kim was DQ but the other golfer got a replacement in time and played with the new club.
As for tightening the screw, not very sure... the screw is tighten by a toque wrench so it should stay tight | |
| | | and68low Very Active Golfer
Posts : 915 Join date : 2009-11-20 Age : 64 Location : bukit
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:00 pm | |
| This will clear the air........so the golfer explaination to the rule Official is crucial as to how the club face got loosen in this case. How the rule 4.3 to be implemented will be for the Rule official to interpret the cause, and use either a, b, or c...... for a decision.
4-3. Damaged Clubs: Repair and Replacement
•a. Damage in Normal Course of Play If, during a stipulated round, a player’s club is damaged in the normal course of play, he may:
•(i) use the club in its damaged state for the remainder of the stipulated round; or
•(ii) without unduly delaying play, repair it or have it repaired; or
•(iii) as an additional option available only if the club is unfit for play, replace the damaged club with any club. The replacement of a club must not unduly delay play and must not be made by borrowing any club selected for play by any other person playing on the course.
PENALTY FOR BREACH OF RULE 4-3a: See Penalty Statements for Rule 4-4a or b and Rule 4-4c. Note: A club is unfit for play if it is substantially damaged, e.g., the shaft is dented, significantly bent or broken into pieces; the clubhead becomes loose, detached or significantly deformed; or the grip becomes loose. A club is not unfit for play solely because the club’s lie or loft has been altered, or the clubhead is scratched.
•b. Damage Other Than in Normal Course of Play If, during a stipulated round, a player’s club is damaged other than in the normal course of play rendering it non-conforming or changing its playing characteristics, the club must not subsequently be used or replaced during the round.
•c. Damage Prior to Round A player may use a club damaged prior to a round, provided the club, in its damaged state, conforms with the Rules. Damage to a club that occurred prior to a round may be repaired during the round, provided the playing characteristics are not changed and play is not unduly delayed. PENALTY FOR BREACH OF RULE 4-3b or c: Disqualification. | |
| | | samT Very Active Golfer
Posts : 775 Join date : 2009-06-23 Location : Singapore
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Fri Jun 11, 2010 7:53 am | |
| Thanks bro and68low. Wow, looks like this is not a simple matter of just tying one's shoelaces or making assumptions because a rule official actually has to decide how the club got altered during play. Now I know why the pros just simply glued everything down, screw or no screw. | |
| | | and68low Very Active Golfer
Posts : 915 Join date : 2009-11-20 Age : 64 Location : bukit
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:13 am | |
| - samT wrote:
- Thanks bro and68low. Wow, looks like this is not a simple matter of just tying one's shoelaces or making assumptions because a rule official actually has to decide how the club got altered during play. Now I know why the pros just simply glued everything down, screw or no screw.
Absulutely Bro, my lawyers love to interpret cases for their own agenda and argument - remember there are always two side to a coin and that is why we have Judges to decide !(in this case the rules referee) We will enjoy the game of golf, once we all adhere and know the Rules of golf, and not "screw here screw there" on the golf course. Some might say "nevermind la" its only social game ! Just imagine if we go about giving, creating or making our own rules in our lives, things will be in such a mayhem! | |
| | | tronos Super Active Golfer
Posts : 1121 Join date : 2009-06-21
| Subject: Re: Taylormade xFT Wedges Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:15 pm | |
| that means we can tighten the screws when it comes loose....same issue as when the adjustable movable weights come into the market..... but reading this makes me think otherwise "A club is unfit for play if it is substantially damaged........clubhead becomes loose, detached or significantly deformed"...technically face is not a clubhead but without the face u cannot play at all.....unlike a missing weight screw | |
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