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Khorkar Incredibly Active Golfer
Posts : 2978 Join date : 2009-06-19 Age : 49 Location : Sinkapoh
| Subject: Course Mngt - Need your help Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:58 pm | |
| I seriously sux at course management. Although my golf mateys have said that I have improved, in my mind, I still sux. Why o why I always cheong, I dont know. May be it is a self greed or competitiveness. It lands me in loads unnecessary strokes.. Sigh..
If you have any tips to part to this poor feller, please by all means... | |
| | | Duval_S Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 8185 Join date : 2009-06-19
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:13 pm | |
| At least for me, i stop betting ....coz that makes me react based on my betting mate and then common sense ...will no longer be common.
Of coz, after a while, when common sense becomes common again, then bet again.... | |
| | | kopiO Senior Golfer
Posts : 430 Join date : 2009-06-19 Location : Jurong
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:22 pm | |
| hard to diff between cheong and confidence lah... only time and experience can correct over-confidence... | |
| | | slinger Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 5692 Join date : 2009-06-19 Age : 54 Location : Wild Wild West
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:02 pm | |
| k, its good to leave some clubs at home, then it will save u some strokes on the course.........
many ways to play certain holes; but do look out for the short par 4s n the long par 4s
short par 4s: course designers are not stupid, if its short, then look out for OB, water or bunkers, its a risk/reward hole, if its par u want, just play smart.....
long par 4s: if u know u cant reach on 2, why try? just play around the hazard, 3 on 2 putt..... know your limitation, be realistic about your game,
index holes: these holes are low index for a simple reason, they are tough, again just play smart.......
sometimes, actually lots of time, golf is about damage control, if u keep away from the double or triple or worst, u will keep your score down..... | |
| | | mUAr_cHEe Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 7237 Join date : 2009-06-19 Location : Sillypore
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:01 am | |
| if you cannot get over the ego or cheonging part of you, you will not be able to attain course management... | |
| | | shotah Super Active Golfer
Posts : 1005 Join date : 2009-06-26 Age : 47
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:45 am | |
| My THeory for not cheonging = Bet Bigger in STROKE PLAY. confirm works! | |
| | | Khorkar Incredibly Active Golfer
Posts : 2978 Join date : 2009-06-19 Age : 49 Location : Sinkapoh
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:31 am | |
| Bros, thanks for the advice. I need to be wise next round and think carefully before I take my next shot. Hopefully, this time around be wiser.
Shotah, cannot bet more liao. Piggie bank small liao. | |
| | | DGman Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 6385 Join date : 2009-06-18
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:44 am | |
| KK,
you have 190 metres to the green. there is water in front and you have to carry 175 meters to clear the water.
Assuming your full 3 wood gives you 195 metres, what do you do?
happened at the course yesterday.....
DGman | |
| | | Technospaz Advisor
Posts : 15668 Join date : 2009-06-18 Age : 48 Location : Typically OOB
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:57 am | |
| Play it short. I always choke when I see water. | |
| | | SIMBA Senior Golfer
Posts : 257 Join date : 2009-06-18 Age : 43 Location : singapore
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:26 am | |
| this time i will use my most confident clubs instead of 3 woods LOL | |
| | | siaw8 Very Active Golfer
Posts : 945 Join date : 2009-06-19 Age : 44
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:46 am | |
| If no betting and nothing to lose, use 3 wood to cheong...
If got betting and alot to lose, lay up just before the water using 6 iron:)
Personally, i will use 3 wood to cheong. At most penalty one more stroke mah. No betting, nothing involved. Why scared. haahaa.. Thats why my game never improve:) | |
| | | Khorkar Incredibly Active Golfer
Posts : 2978 Join date : 2009-06-19 Age : 49 Location : Sinkapoh
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:23 am | |
| 3-wood Or Lay up
Right now, my brain is tell me to take up 3 wood. Correct?
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| | | Duval_S Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 8185 Join date : 2009-06-19
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:30 am | |
| Not sure about the rest, but I will ask myself, if I need to execute the 3wd, how many out of 10m will I be decently successful? If >70%, then JUST Do IT.
If < 70%, then call for back up plan eg. layup to 100m, use hybrid to 160m assuming no water before green etc etc.
THEN, more importantly after the game...depending on the desire to train, if have desire, go train 3wd in case history repeats. | |
| | | Ssquirrel Super Active Golfer
Posts : 1368 Join date : 2009-06-19
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:00 pm | |
| Wah... all of you 3wd so power! Summore can close club face, etc! For me..distance short, so dun have this type of dilemma, since cannot on anyways. what a hacker like me would do is: 1) Lay up to my favourite distance. (Lay up also means choose a club that even if you pull left or push right, it won't reach the hazard.) 2) Divide the distance roughly into 2. e.g 190m to green. 1st shot: I hit 100m using my 100m club (errr. my 7i?) Then I go to my ball and access again. Was the previous shot a good clean hit? If so, did I cover the 100m? If maybe only cover 90m, maybe the wind factor about 10m, so my next shot, I will factor in the 10m wind... Something liddat lah.. I think wait for the better players to reply and listen to their advice.. | |
| | | Duval_S Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 8185 Join date : 2009-06-19
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:03 pm | |
| Hi SS, Let me watch the repeat of AT&T tonite, and will write something more impressive eg. cut , low fade, high fade, high cut then fade.........that is the beauty of golf....easy to talk, but tough to walk the talk....hahahah
BTW, I don even have 3wd in my bag....
...DS | |
| | | Khorkar Incredibly Active Golfer
Posts : 2978 Join date : 2009-06-19 Age : 49 Location : Sinkapoh
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:04 pm | |
| SS, Duval
I like yr strategy. I think it makes sense. That why it makes yall a much better player and me, a lousy one. Without realising it, I make a cheong attempt without considering other options.
Sigh!!! | |
| | | jimmychoo Super Active Golfer
Posts : 1255 Join date : 2009-06-17 Age : 107 Location : Teban Garden
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:23 pm | |
| For me, it really depend, 1) Whether is a match play or stoke play. Match likely cheong, stoke likely lay up. 2) 195M is my 3 wd carry distance? If yes, got to check the wind, elevation of green and how is my 3 wood doing on that day. 3) If cheong, must really keep myself as relax as i can be and trust the swing. 4) All is just my dream, my 3 wd can only carry 170m at most. | |
| | | frosTEE Super Active Golfer
Posts : 1068 Join date : 2009-06-20
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:24 pm | |
| Look at the surroundings e.g slope, hazards, determine the distance, think of the worst case scenerio if i happen to top the shot and prepare for recovery shot if i do happen to make a mistake. And if you do decide to be advanturous for that day, just forget about scoring cause it will make you miserable. Once you have enough on course experience and with good guidance, course management should not be a problem at all | |
| | | DGman Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 6385 Join date : 2009-06-18
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:21 pm | |
| 1 pitching wedge and 1 approach wedge guarantee a 4 on and no big no....
DGman | |
| | | sunny Greens Committee Member
Posts : 3575 Join date : 2009-06-17 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:28 pm | |
| what if he 4 putted? | |
| | | Khorkar Incredibly Active Golfer
Posts : 2978 Join date : 2009-06-19 Age : 49 Location : Sinkapoh
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:29 pm | |
| Then,.... i better take putting class... | |
| | | frosTEE Super Active Golfer
Posts : 1068 Join date : 2009-06-20
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:30 pm | |
| time to visit DGMan for putting tips | |
| | | DGman Hall of Fame Golfer
Posts : 6385 Join date : 2009-06-18
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:50 pm | |
| the guy i was playing went with a 3 wood and ended up with an 8. otherwise at most double B, likely Bogey or if really lucky, still can get par.
thats how i would course managed.
DGman | |
| | | Khorkar Incredibly Active Golfer
Posts : 2978 Join date : 2009-06-19 Age : 49 Location : Sinkapoh
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:56 pm | |
| Beh sai cheong liao!!!! My new Mantra!!!!! Thanks for the advice. | |
| | | S70B Course Marshal
Posts : 5118 Join date : 2009-06-18 Location : Home sweat home...
| Subject: Re: Course Mngt - Need your help Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:27 pm | |
| Actually, to cheong or not depends on your skill level. If you can't hit ur 195m shot 195m 90% of the time, dun bother.
I'm posting on the basis of observing the avg player - ie 18 handicappers - PC holders.
Most of the mistakes observed are:
1. Not enuff club to get there - They think they hit 1 career 7iron 150m or 1 x 3wd 210m on the range or once on the course so that is the distance they play for. Be realistic, lower that ego and take more club.
2. Lack of understanding of loft to get over or under obstacles - I see alot of players when trying to go over trees 15-20m in front of them take out hybrids and woods or when wanting to go under tree branches take out PW or SW. Understand that loft does not cover only distance but also trajectory of the shot. You can hit ur 9i or PW 100m but can u do the same with ur 5i or hybrid? Practice more of those 3/4 shots and leave the driver bashing to another session. My 8i is about 135-140m but I always practice my punch shots with the same club for the 75,100, 125m shots to hone my feel. for pitches even for 50m, I will practice LW, AW, PW, 8i, 5i to vary the height of the shots.
3. How good is your shot game? If you know that when you cheong and its only going to be a success rate of 25% or less for that shot, you better back it up with a decent short game like pitching, bunker play and chipping cos u will most likely be doing that for the next shot.
4. I hear many here say they will lay up to their most comfortable distances. Have you practiced enuff of it? If you can't get your 'comfy distance' shot to land within 15ft of the flag 80% of the time, your comfy distance is not comfy enuff. Again, drop that big stick and pull out those short irons to practice more.
The couple of people I have been to the range with here knows that I hardly hit my long clubs at all. My 8i and wedges have the most wear on their faces because those short irons are my $ clubs.
KK, there is an endless stream of course mgmt scenarios to be in. I think its best that u play more of the game, think of a troublesome hole that bugged u and then maybe ask for certain views of the golfer. | |
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