Shaft's life

Hi All,

Was wondering this about golf shafts and hope if any of you can share your knowledge.

How do you know when a new golf shaft is seasoned? And how do you know when a golf shaft is past its prime.

Thanks

When it fail to perform as past? Or it fail to meet your expectation?
Another excuse to buy new toy...

kenkong79 wrote:

When it fail to perform as past? Or it fail to meet your expectation?
Another excuse to buy new toy...

No need excuse lah......when u see, like irregardless your old toy performing or not....still will buy.

its time to change when your wallet says so

I think Tom Wishon or some other guru fitter has said that the golf shafts will not deteriorate in quality or performance characteristics over time.

I think this is correct, the thing that changes is usually the guy who is holding the shaft tend to deteriorate or change in performance over time, and that is why we will always need to buy new shafts, drivers, irons sets, wedges, putters, etc....

But seriously, unless the shaft breaks into 2, I think you can pretty much play it for as long as you want. (Please don't read this last statement with notti thoughts ah)

like every other thing on earth, everything has an expiry date. ok maybe except diamonds since they are 'forever'

anyway, a shaft will experience wear and tear over time, but we usually dont use a shaft long enough for the effects to show. i think the part of the shaft that will experience the most wear is at its kick point, as well as at the hosel, since that is where most of the bending will take place during the swing.

also, if you are using a flex that is too soft for your swing, it will deteriorate faster, since it was not made to bear that amount of force.

in summary, if you are using a shaft that has an appropriate or stiffer than appropriate flex, the chances are that it will last for as long as you do...

even steel shafts? they won't deteriorate?

Rust may set in for Steel shaft though...

if can deteriorate then better dont fly the new planes...i broke 3 shafts before, all at the hosel (me lousy player, dig too much ground with the woods and driver). The point where the shaft enters the hosel is where the highest stress is.

I have swing a damaged shaft that looks perfect from outside. Also once at the Golfer Network midnight sale, a heard a few shaft crack (fallen hybrid on the floor) when ppl step on them during the stampede. When i took a look, the shafts looks and feel normal. Safe to say i did not by a hybrid that day.

my steel shaft is rusty also. nice combo actually with the rusty heads

Costajos, ur in a phase of thinking too much, too deep and too hard. Use that time to get a date with a new squeeze or perhaps chng ur car.. Like mentioned by scottycollector , all things in life , everything has got an expiry date, including ur enthusiasm in golf and anything thats associated with it..

Begbie wrote:

Costajos, ur in a phase of thinking too much, too deep and too hard. Use that time to get a date with a new squeeze or perhaps chng ur car.. Like mentioned by scottycollector , all things in life , everything has got an expiry date, including ur enthusiasm in golf and anything thats associated with it..

lol yea just curious i guess. but if man never thought or wondered about stuff... why is the earth round, the sun shine... society would have never progress.

like scottycollector said.. using a shaft that has an appropriate or stiffer than appropriate flex, the chances are that it will last for as long as you do (sic).

costajos wrote:

Begbie wrote:

Costajos, ur in a phase of thinking too much, too deep and too hard. Use that time to get a date with a new squeeze or perhaps chng ur car.. Like mentioned by scottycollector , all things in life , everything has got an expiry date, including ur enthusiasm in golf and anything thats associated with it..

lol yea just curious i guess. but if man never thought or wondered about stuff... why is the earth round, the sun shine... society would have never progress.

like scottycollector said.. using a shaft that has an appropriate or stiffer than appropriate flex, the chances are that it will last for as long as you do (sic).

Hahaaa .. Like I said other things to wonder abt.. Shaft life is the least of it.. Maybe my interest in golf kinda slowed down a bit.. Looking for new hobby

Begbie wrote:

costajos wrote:

Begbie wrote:

Costajos, ur in a phase of thinking too much, too deep and too hard. Use that time to get a date with a new squeeze or perhaps chng ur car.. Like mentioned by scottycollector , all things in life , everything has got an expiry date, including ur enthusiasm in golf and anything thats associated with it..

lol yea just curious i guess. but if man never thought or wondered about stuff... why is the earth round, the sun shine... society would have never progress.

like scottycollector said.. using a shaft that has an appropriate or stiffer than appropriate flex, the chances are that it will last for as long as you do (sic).

Hahaaa .. Like I said other things to wonder abt.. Shaft life is the least of it.. Maybe my interest in golf kinda slowed down a bit.. Looking for new hobby

Lol yea. Know what you mean. Sometimes we just need a breath of fresh air

dun leave your clubs in the trunk of your car.....


if u do, make sure the car is sheltered from the heat of the sun....


heat is not good for the shafts....


after a wet round of golf, dun leave the clubs in the car as well...


remove the headcovers (if u have) and air the clubs to prevent moisture buildup....

Since we are talking about shafts..

One innocent question... Not directed on anyone..

When we go fix some shafts, besides being there physically to see the fitting, how do we know all the shafts are brand new ?

Could one or two be used for demos before and put into our clubs?

Is there a way to tell a brand new from not so brand new after the shaft been fixed to the club head..?

Thanks bros !

Gong Xi Fa Cai !!!

aiya jo, just follow my lead... go to PGA show when you have the chance... and have friends tht are going when you are not free... so you will change your equipment every year... no worries abt storing clubs in the car, moisture, heat, shaft life or any such rubbish...

i dont even use my clubs long enough to see rust form...

If my memory serves me well, someone reputable here mentioned that there is no shelf life in shafts ... However, I stand corrected ...

hi guys n hi chien.

is quite easy to see a new or use shaft.
New graphite shaft, the tip of the shaft is not shaver out n should be about 45inch in raw b4 cutting.
same as for steel shafts for irons. the tip of the shaft is the grind n normally about 2 inch more b4 cutting.

Driver graphite shaft normally last about 8000 to 12000 hits, also depends on ur swing swing.

if each time when u reshaft a driver, is better to check the Fq when is new. then after 6 months of playing it, check again to see how much Fq has been drop.
I would guess dropping at about 15fq , is consider soften n might start hooking or slicing away.

A driver shaft do wore out the fasters. compare to others.
More local pros that plays in the tour circiut, do change their shaft about once a month, anyway they are sponsered.

hope u understand better.

Thanks n cheers

Many thanks jloo

Yup I know about before fitting. I was actually asking

Is there a way to tell a brand new from not so brand new after the shaft been fixed to the club head..?

Thanks

Gong Xi Fa Cai !!!

jloo61 wrote:

hi guys n hi chien.

is quite easy to see a new or use shaft.
New graphite shaft, the tip of the shaft is not shaver out n should be about 45inch in raw b4 cutting.
same as for steel shafts for irons. the tip of the shaft is the grind n normally about 2 inch more b4 cutting.

Driver graphite shaft normally last about 8000 to 12000 hits, also depends on ur swing swing.

if each time when u reshaft a driver, is better to check the Fq when is new. then after 6 months of playing it, check again to see how much Fq has been drop.
I would guess dropping at about 15fq , is consider soften n might start hooking or slicing away.

A driver shaft do wore out the fasters. compare to others.
More local pros that plays in the tour circiut, do change their shaft about once a month, anyway they are sponsered.

hope u understand better.

Thanks n cheers

thanks jloo! really helpful! can you shed any light on steel shafts as well?

kenkong79 wrote:

When it fail to perform as past? Or it fail to meet your expectation?
Another excuse to buy new toy...

lol Ken HH when?

costajos wrote:

kenkong79 wrote:

When it fail to perform as past? Or it fail to meet your expectation?
Another excuse to buy new toy...

lol Ken HH when?

Anyway HH recently raised their price again.

enwee wrote:

costajos wrote:

kenkong79 wrote:

When it fail to perform as past? Or it fail to meet your expectation?
Another excuse to buy new toy...

lol Ken HH when?

Anyway HH recently raised their price again.

Er....when started n by how much?
Am gamg there followg week! Tx enwee bro!

@Chien bro, gd ques despite i m gamg on stock shafts

hkhamateur wrote:

enwee wrote:

costajos wrote:

kenkong79 wrote:

When it fail to perform as past? Or it fail to meet your expectation?
Another excuse to buy new toy...

lol Ken HH when?

Anyway HH recently raised their price again.

Er....when started n by how much?
Am gamg there followg week! Tx enwee bro!

@Chien bro, gd ques despite i m gamg on stock shafts

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