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PostSubject: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 16, 2012 11:46 am

It is such a sad Sunday morning for me after I have read this news... No more words that I can express no more Oh god

NEWTOWN, Conn. -- The horror wrought by a lone gunman on this close-knit community crystallized Saturday afternoon as the 26 victims of the Sandy Hook school massacre were publicly identified.

Among the dead were the educators who hailed as heroes -- the school's principal and psychologist, who didn't hesitate to rush toward the sound of the gunfire, and the first-grade teacher who used her body to shield her tiny charges from the bullets. Six of the victims were adults.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/15/sandy-hook-school-shooting-victims-identified/1771867/

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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 16, 2012 11:48 am

All six adults killed at the school were women. Of the 20 children who were shot to death, eight were boys and 12 were girls. All the children were ages 6 or 7.

The names and birth dates of the victims:

Charlotte Bacon (2/22/06), 6 years old, female

Daniel Barden (9/25/05), 7 years old, male

Rachel Davino (7/17/83), Staff member, 29 years old, female

Olivia Engel (7/18/06), 6 years old, female

Josephine Gay (12/11/05), 7 years old, female

Ana M. Marquez-Greene (4/4/06), 6 years old, female

Dylan Hockley (3/8/06), 6 years old, male

Dawn Hochsprung (6/28/65), Principal, 47 years old, female

Madeleine F. Hsu (7/10/06), 6 years old, female

Catherine V. Hubbard (6/8/06), 6 years old, female

Chase Kowalski (10/31/05), 7 years old, male

Nancy Lanza, 52 years old, female (mother of shooter Adam Lanza)

Jesse Lewis (6/30/06), 6 years old, male

James Mattioli (03/22/06), 6 years old, male

Grace McDonnell (11/4/05), 7 years old, female

Anne Marie Murphy (7/25/60), Staff member, 52 years old, female

Emilie Parker (05/12/06), 6 years old, female

Jack Pinto (05/05/06), 6 years old, male

Noah Pozner (11/20/06), 6 years old, male

Caroline Previdi (9/07/06), 6 years old, female

Jessica Rekos (5/10/06), 6 years old, female

Avielle Richman (11/17/06) 6 years old, female

Lauren Rousseau (June 1982), Staff member, 30 years old, female

Mary Sherlach (2/11/56), Staff member, 56 years old, female

Victoria Soto (11/04/85), Staff member, 27 years old, female

Benjamin Wheeler (09/12/06), 6 years old, male

Allison N. Wyatt (07/03/06), 6 years old, female
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 16, 2012 2:15 pm

Funny thing was, the shooter was just a nerd in school. God knows what people can do. Imagine shooting those little cute kids. Christmas is just a few weeks away. Rest in peace .
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 16, 2012 3:25 pm

When fire arms is made readily available, this will not be the last case. RIP.
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 16, 2012 3:39 pm

I felt a pang in my heart reading the names and seeing their birth dates.... No words can express their parents pain.
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 19, 2012 12:20 am

Well, This isn't the first and it won't be the last as well. I feel sad for the unfortunate ones but as long as fire arms are readily available, history will definitely repeat again and again and again....
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 19, 2012 12:26 am

the us has made it easy for people to buy guns. thats why there are so many shootings going on there. RIP
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 19, 2012 12:39 am

Just the US? I seem to recall Sweden had a mass shooting recently.
I don't like guns myself, but it is a right written in the US Consitution.
You have mentally unsound people everywhere. They are the ones doing the killing.
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 19, 2012 12:57 am

"At least 24 Americans every day (8-9,000 a year) are killed by people with guns – and that doesn't count the ones accidentally killed by guns or who commit suicide with a gun. Count them and you can triple that number to over 25,000.

That means the United States is responsible for over 80 percent of all the gun deaths in the 23 richest countries combined."

- Michael Moore
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 19, 2012 1:01 am

meia07656 wrote:
Just the US? I seem to recall Sweden had a mass shooting recently.
I don't like guns myself, but it is a right written in the US Consitution.
You have mentally unsound people everywhere. They are the ones doing the killing.

It was in Norway.

I believe that us constitution is held dearly to many Americans, I have nothing against the right to bear arms but assault rifles with high capacity mags?
That's way too many bullets for deer hunting
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 19, 2012 2:03 am

What does it take to have some common sense?
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 19, 2012 6:36 am

TourSwing wrote:
"At least 24 Americans every day (8-9,000 a year) are killed by people with guns – and that doesn't count the ones accidentally killed by guns or who commit suicide with a gun. Count them and you can triple that number to over 25,000.

That means the United States is responsible for over 80 percent of all the gun deaths in the 23 richest countries combined."

- Michael Moore

Nothing against you TS, but quoting Michael Moore? He is the biggest liberal piece of crap on the earth. He should be euthanized.
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 19, 2012 6:46 am

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meia07656 wrote:
Just the US? I seem to recall Sweden had a mass shooting recently.
I don't like guns myself, but it is a right written in the US Constitution.
You have mentally unsound people everywhere. They are the ones doing the killing.

It was in Norway.

I believe that us constitution is held dearly to many Americans, I have nothing against the right to bear arms but assault rifles with high capacity mags?
That's way too many bullets for deer hunting
beg your pardon, Norway then.
Yes, when I served and had to swear the oath. It said to uphold and protect the Constitution of the United States. It did not allow me the option to choose of which parts I had to uphold and protect. It is a all or nothing proposition.
Like I stated earlier, I don't like guns myself. couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with one.
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 19, 2012 6:50 am

The mainland china version uses knives.. Started recently then many many copy cats. Lots of slashing, but less fatality. In the US, most victims died fr gunshot wounds.

The most recent one is in henan province, 22 children were injured. Injured, no one was killed.

That's the difference. Guns are a lot more effective and efficient at taking lives.
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 19, 2012 9:30 am

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beg your pardon, Norway then.
Yes, when I served and had to swear the oath. It said to uphold and protect the Constitution of the United States. It did not allow me the option to choose of which parts I had to uphold and protect. It is a all or nothing proposition.
Like I stated earlier, I don't like guns myself. couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with one.[/quote]

No offense Bro, just setting the record straight.

I have 6 year old and I can empathize with with parents who lost the light of their lives.

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Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 19, 2012 10:42 am

.....to uphold and protect the Constitution?? White Flag
I wonder if one of the victims is BO's child...
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 19, 2012 12:25 pm

The 2nd Amendment needs to be changed. I have much to say about this but the weapon making companies in US have fed a lot of senators,congressman and sponsor a lot of political campaigns....nothing will be changed, even if Obama says so...I just don't see it happening.


Till then, more innocent lives will be lost.
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 19, 2012 12:44 pm

Changing the 2nd Amendment may require a lot of guts and tricky for any Congress, there is too much history and love, not to mention political suicide for any party

In my humble view, the right to bear Arms is a American right, so i guess cant do anything about it, just like right to speech

the issue here is National Rifle Association, the NRA is one of the most powerful lobby groups in the country, both in terms of power and money
They are the strongest lobbyist for all sort of weapons and staunch defender of the 2nd Amendment. I reckon anyone who wants to take political office will need their support in some shape or form, either in moderate or extreme manner, else no chance

The NRA only has about 4.5 million members, not a lot, but a powerful bunch who gives up very little when it comes to guns, hence they have been largesly quiet in the aftermath of this sad shooting.

till the NRA is reined in, more innocent lives will be lost, this Xmas, say a prayer for the little kiddos who are with God now.
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PostSubject: Re: Sandy Hook school massacre    Sandy Hook school massacre  I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 19, 2012 1:56 pm

I hate to say this but it is ingrained in the mindset of many that it's not only their right to own a weapon but to use it when needed. I doubt we'll see any change to US legislation about gun ownership. There may be tightening of laws around buying guns but there will always be ways to get around these.

Sadly, I don't expect the situation to change. Rather, I anticipate that the only way to protect innocent lives would be to introduce additional 'barriers' like security for schools, metal detectors/scanners etc.

Guns are a way of life for our American friends, whether they like it or not.
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