Across the line.. across the line.. it's always bad... or is it?
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Lee36328 Super Active Golfer
Posts : 1997 Join date : 2011-03-27
Subject: Across the line.. across the line.. it's always bad... or is it? Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:01 am
If we read today's golf instruction books or magazine articles, we'll come across admonishments to avoid crossing the line.
Don't cross the line at the top of the backswing. It's repeated so often, it's like a mantra.
But, look at this...
So, is this good or bad?
dmateo Super Active Golfer
Posts : 1104 Join date : 2010-09-19 Location : Singapore
Subject: Re: Across the line.. across the line.. it's always bad... or is it? Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:11 am
I think it's up to each individual right ? the general thumb rule of not crossing so you will not have a reverse pivot (if memory serves me right) and lost accuracy. But some player can do this (John Dally and Bubba ??) without affecting their accuracy
I found 3/4 swing on iron tends to be more accurate compared to a full swing. Not sure if this is generic,but if so it might help to explain why there is a lot of emphasis on not crossing the line.
TDO Super Active Golfer
Posts : 2255 Join date : 2011-10-02 Age : 68 Location : West
Subject: Re: Across the line.. across the line.. it's always bad... or is it? Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:15 am
I got one of the most ugly swing and I only do half swing and have been doing it for the past 16 years. How to change at this age?
Begbie Super Active Golfer
Posts : 1330 Join date : 2010-06-04 Age : 46
Subject: Re: Across the line.. across the line.. it's always bad... or is it? Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:20 am
TDO wrote:
I got one of the most ugly swing and I only do half swing and have been doing it for the past 16 years. How to change at this age?
Ugly but consistent swing = winning bets...
Beatiful but inconsistent swing = losing bets...
Taworn wiratchant is one good example. Putting and birdie stats - Top 5 in Asian Tour. Swing looks like shit... 13 Asian Tour wins..
Jeev Milka SIngh also one ugly swing. But many wins...
If it works for u no need change bro...
Lee36328 Super Active Golfer
Posts : 1997 Join date : 2011-03-27
Subject: Re: Across the line.. across the line.. it's always bad... or is it? Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:27 am
Thanks for the comments guys.
Ah, but here's the twist.
The subject of the picture is none other than Freddy Couples.
Now there's a smooth tempo swing. No one has ever described his swing as ugly. And certainly not inaccurate.
Here's the video.
My point is, conventional 'wisdom' is sometimes (and in fact, often) wrong.
So, don't be in a hurry to listen to prevailing swing 'tips', 'guidelines', 'rules', etc and change your swing.
I can't tell you how many times I've read in current magazines - don't cross the line at the top, don't cross the line at the top... and I was like hypnotize until I believed it. If it's in books and magazines, it must be correct, right?
Think again. Keep an open mind.
P/S - at 0:53, the video explicitly states that his shaft crosses the target line. I luv it!
Lee36328 Super Active Golfer
Posts : 1997 Join date : 2011-03-27
Subject: Re: Across the line.. across the line.. it's always bad... or is it? Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:46 am
dmateo wrote:
I think it's up to each individual right ? the general thumb rule of not crossing so you will not have a reverse pivot (if memory serves me right) and lost accuracy. But some player can do this (John Dally and Bubba ??) without affecting their accuracy
I found 3/4 swing on iron tends to be more accurate compared to a full swing. Not sure if this is generic,but if so it might help to explain why there is a lot of emphasis on not crossing the line.
Yup... and that's where the 'rule of thumb' approach fails.
There are so many different ways to effectively apply the human body to power the golf shaft, that the 'rule of thumb' approach, by definition, will never be able to cover all cases. What's forbidden in one swing method may actually be essential in another.
No reverse pivot in Freddy.. right?
Now... what if some (juuust a little bit) reverse pivot is actually good? The stack and tilt is almost... approaching a reverse pivot.
Lee36328 Super Active Golfer
Posts : 1997 Join date : 2011-03-27
Subject: Re: Across the line.. across the line.. it's always bad... or is it? Wed Oct 12, 2011 11:50 am
Begbie wrote:
TDO wrote:
I got one of the most ugly swing and I only do half swing and have been doing it for the past 16 years. How to change at this age?
Ugly but consistent swing = winning bets...
Beatiful but inconsistent swing = losing bets...
Taworn wiratchant is one good example. Putting and birdie stats - Top 5 in Asian Tour. Swing looks like shit... 13 Asian Tour wins..
Jeev Milka SIngh also one ugly swing. But many wins...
If it works for u no need change bro...
Exactly. Tiger Woods, richest golfer, extremely talented. One year into the swing change, with all the resources he has available at his disposal, not even close to where he was before.
A swing change onto an established change, in your case 16 years, is a big big commitment.
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