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PostSubject: club head lie   club head lie I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 24, 2011 11:06 pm

sorry for the noob question....but would like to check on one thing. ALl things being equal...if the lie of the club is too upright (toe does not touch the ground on setup) will it cause snap hooks????
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PostSubject: Re: club head lie   club head lie I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 24, 2011 11:29 pm

It should have a tendency to bro.. If im not wrong. I experience that at times cos my irons are ard 2 deg upright. If you accidentally pull it more, it does snap-hook.
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PostSubject: Re: club head lie   club head lie I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 24, 2011 11:50 pm

too upright...result is a pull or hook. you are hitting off the heel of the club.

too flat...result is a slice or push, you are hitting off the toe of the club.

but where it impacts on the club face can be due to other reasons such as your swing path, angle of attach, gripping, ball position.

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PostSubject: Re: club head lie   club head lie I_icon_minitimeMon Oct 24, 2011 11:56 pm

DGman wrote:
too upright...result is a pull or hook. you are hitting off the heel of the club.

too flat...result is a slice or push, you are hitting off the toe of the club.

but where it impacts on the club face can be due to other reasons such as your swing path, angle of attach, gripping, ball position.

DGman

you avatars are giving me a irregular heartbeat...but i cannot say i don't like it. that will be too pretentious on my part.

Thanks... would it right to say that it would be almost impossible to hit the sweet spot if the club heads are too upright. Considering that swing path etc etc are all techincally "correct"?
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PostSubject: Re: club head lie   club head lie I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 25, 2011 12:10 am

Sweet spot alright .. Winston you have outdone yourself! Beer
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PostSubject: Re: club head lie   club head lie I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 25, 2011 12:28 am

you can still hit the sweet spot with the wrong lie angle. there was a case study about a very accomplished golfer who can hit the 5 in the 150 yards marker when asked to do so

his impact is always on the toe, consistently. his ball flight is straight as an arrow.

in this case, do we change his lie angle. well they have and the ball goes way off after that.

its rare but its possible. hence in adjusting the lie, its important to see where the ball is going and not just rely on the readings on the sole.

Winston in your case, you may have adjusted the ball position or swing path to compensate for the lie angle.

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PostSubject: Re: club head lie   club head lie I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 25, 2011 12:45 am

DGman wrote:
you can still hit the sweet spot with the wrong lie angle. there was a case study about a very accomplished golfer who can hit the 5 in the 150 yards marker when asked to do so

his impact is always on the toe, consistently. his ball flight is straight as an arrow.

in this case, do we change his lie angle. well they have and the ball goes way off after that.

its rare but its possible. hence in adjusting the lie, its important to see where the ball is going and not just rely on the readings on the sole.

Winston in your case, you may have adjusted the ball position or swing path to compensate for the lie angle.

DGman

Once again thanks alot for the info.....will definatly pay you a visit soon when time permits...
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PostSubject: Re: club head lie   club head lie I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 25, 2011 8:35 am

i hope you bring your avatars....and not the digital files hor.

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PostSubject: Re: club head lie   club head lie I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 25, 2011 8:43 am

Good to know that club face at setup may not be clubface at impact. Easiest way to check is to stick a tape below the club and hit. Then u can see. And mat may be different from turf.
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PostSubject: Re: club head lie   club head lie I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 25, 2011 8:48 am

nose bleeding question.... my take is.... ermm....

what was the question again? Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: club head lie   club head lie I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 25, 2011 8:55 am

alvin looks like you need to visit silicon valley soon.....
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PostSubject: Re: club head lie   club head lie I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 25, 2011 11:17 am

DGman wrote:
i hope you bring your avatars....and not the digital files hor.

CU soon

That one is not economicaly viable. It would be better if you come up. And I bring you to a place very near your old work place that will blow your mind.....
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PostSubject: Re: club head lie   club head lie I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 25, 2011 2:40 pm

Hi DGman,

So if I am understanding correctly, I can make adjustments to the lie to straighten out my pulls a little bit?
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PostSubject: Re: club head lie   club head lie I_icon_minitimeTue Oct 25, 2011 4:18 pm

Denmeister wrote:
Hi DGman,

So if I am understanding correctly, I can make adjustments to the lie to straighten out my pulls a little bit?

I guess that all things being equal with sound fundamentals that are consistent, less upright would solve the problem...
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